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RE: The Paradox of Power....
October 2, 2015 at 3:29 am
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(October 1, 2015 at 7:33 pm)ronedee Wrote: My views of atheism are spot on. They are a bunch of fowl mouth jerks. A bubbling cauldron of hate and inequity, lacking in any sort of peace and kindness. This is probably the most ignorant and blatantly factually false thing I've read since being on this forum. Outside of discussing actual fairy tales, of course.
Even though he/she is insulting me directly, I still don't take it personally. Atheism is not my identity. I'm not offended. I'm just shocked at how some people's grasp of reality can be so utterly weak as to be non-existent.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
October 2, 2015 at 3:37 am
(October 1, 2015 at 8:20 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (October 1, 2015 at 7:33 pm)ronedee Wrote: You strain over maybe 20,000 killed by Christians in the dark ages no less.
Firstly, one iniquitous death is a charge against your faith, but you vastly understate the number. And you're ignoring the millions put to death in the Thirty Years' War, which was a battle between Protestants and Catholics -- both Christians. You completely ignore the hundreds of thousands who were killed by Christians in the Crusades -- how many were there, eleven? Twelve? -- and you ignore the fact that all those deaths by Christians whom you're defending here in this thread are violations of a commandment your own god saw fit to lay down.
How do you think he feels seeing you side with human failures against his Holy Word?
Are you not worried about your mortal soul
And, wouldya please go buy a fucking education? God is OK with all kinds of murder and mayhem if it's done by his orders. Sometimes he demands total annihilation and gets very pissed when it's not done. God has a real mean streak. He sends his evil angels to do most of his dirty work but once in a while he goes bonkers and the the crap really hits the fan.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
October 2, 2015 at 3:40 am
(October 1, 2015 at 8:30 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Quote:On Aug. 24, 1572 – St. Bartholomew’s Day – and several days thereafter, Frenchmen slaughtered 100,000 of their Huguenot countrymen throughout France – 10,000 in Paris alone. The favorite disposal site, the Seine, the Rhone, and the rivers of France were stained red by the oozing corpses left rotting.
Another 6,000 slain downriver in Rouen would have injected the Seine with a fetid ribbon of crimson as it meandered towards the Atlantic. The Loire River valley, so strewn with corpses, brought normally shy and unseen packs of wolves streaming down from their cover in the hills to feed on the freshly killed. The fish from the rivers of France would be unsafe to eat for months.
This incident, known as the St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre, would be the bloodiest week in the history of the Huguenots – French Protestants – and the blackest day in French history. Their story is marked by unrelenting episodes of harassments, property seizures, tortures, executions, and slaughters.
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Within a week, up to 100,000 Huguenots were slain.
http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/churcha...sacre.aspx It was around that time that the French Catholics invented the word "atheist" as a curse word for the French Protestants.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
October 2, 2015 at 3:45 am
(October 2, 2015 at 2:01 am)Kitan Wrote: (October 2, 2015 at 1:53 am)ronedee Wrote: That said, those were barbaric times which called for drastic measures. aka WAR.
I believe, my dear, that you are confusing war with events that are sincerely and obviously religiously driven, to the very point that religion can be shown as the culprit for stated events as having occurred.
And, to be honest, does the church not offer guidance to those in power? If the church was truly so holy and so opposed to war, since Jesus was such a pacifist, then would the church not offer advice and guidance in such a way that war was avoided?
The church has forever been corrupted, from within. When Jesus returns he's going to torture everyone, destroy the Earth and kill all life on it. He's not a pacifist.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
October 2, 2015 at 3:49 am
(October 1, 2015 at 7:33 pm)ronedee Wrote: My views of atheism are spot on. They are a bunch of fowl mouth jerks. A bubbling cauldron of hate and inequity, lacking in any sort of peace and kindness.
Boy, I say, boy it's foul not fowl.
(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
October 2, 2015 at 5:29 am
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(October 2, 2015 at 1:17 am)Kitan Wrote: Theists are continually confusing faith with fact.
Also - elbow and a*se, apparently...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
October 2, 2015 at 5:34 am
(October 1, 2015 at 7:33 pm)ronedee Wrote: [...] You strain over maybe 20,000 killed by Christians in the dark ages no less. [...]
Heh - you're funny.
Come back once you've learned some high-school history...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
October 2, 2015 at 8:52 am
(October 2, 2015 at 5:34 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (October 1, 2015 at 7:33 pm)ronedee Wrote: [...] You strain over maybe 20,000 killed by Christians in the dark ages no less. [...]
Heh - you're funny.
Come back once you've learned some high-school history...
And silence for the exact count of abortions each year. Real funny. Learn some humanity.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
October 2, 2015 at 9:02 am
(October 2, 2015 at 2:01 am)Kitan Wrote: (October 2, 2015 at 1:53 am)ronedee Wrote: That said, those were barbaric times which called for drastic measures. aka WAR.
I believe, my dear, that you are confusing war with events that are sincerely and obviously religiously driven, to the very point that religion can be shown as the culprit for stated events as having occurred.
And, to be honest, does the church not offer guidance to those in power? If the church was truly so holy and so opposed to war, since Jesus was such a pacifist, then would the church not offer advice and guidance in such a way that war was avoided?
The church has forever been corrupted, from within.
Ancient history, my dear. You believe what you want about the church and the religion of men and of atheists.... but God hasn't weighed in Himself on anything yet. People either do God's will, or they don't. No church or religion is going to save anyone from justice.
I believe everyone is in for a surprise. Everyone.
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RE: The Paradox of Power....
October 2, 2015 at 9:19 am
(October 2, 2015 at 8:52 am)ronedee Wrote: And silence for the exact count of abortions each year.[...]
I'm terribly sorry, but the f*** I normally give about your made-up numbers is currently out of stock.
Also - abortions are your problem, not mine. Write your senator. Draw a picture, if he/she's a republican...
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