(October 13, 2015 at 8:20 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: Is there something that comes before us that causes us to choose to believe in atheism (of all the wacko types of choices there would be to make).

And to choose to believe in atheism is not difficult, but I say this as a christian: why would you even think there is something in the past that causes us to be able to disbelieve? What in nature could possibly cause the belief in atheism even? Or will you cease to be rational and put atheism as a rationaless belief, a pure monkey hybrid kind of fact? Surely not. And surely not to there being something in our past that can cause us to (naturally) disbelieve in God.

I say this out of the kindness of my heart. [...]

Well, dear sir - your heart can kindly go f*** itself.

(October 13, 2015 at 8:20 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: [...]We christians know that the FSM is just pure hipocricy and manipulation. [...]

We atheists know that all that Jebus shtick is pure hypocrisy. You're obviously trying to convince weak-minded people to "turn the other cheek", so that you can fleece them and f*** their children, with no fear of retaliation.

(October 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm)JBrentonK Wrote:

(October 13, 2015 at 9:27 pm)Beccs Wrote: I KNOW atheism is a non belief in god, however someone my actually try to interpret that for themselves.

If it's easy to convert me with evidence, why have hundreds of Christians, and others, from across the globe failed to do so?

Is it because their evidence is lacking?

Beccs I hate to put this like this to you but yes. The theist "religion" is actually DIFFERENT than atheism. If you ever actuallly meet a sincere theist one day, you will undoubtedly be convinced.

It is also not the evidence you provide. It's the way you approach the topic you're presenting. You can be a balls to the wall atheist, hard pressed, finger pressing or whatever, but if you are not sincere, you will never see the actual battle theists see as it really does unfold. It's all about the evidence anyhow beccs, trying to intepret God is actually the first thing christians jump to (as compared to you atheists). Therefore, convincing you God is real is as easy as convincing a child.

I fail simply to see how so many have failed to convince you.

Well then get to convincing Buster

(October 13, 2015 at 9:37 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:

(October 13, 2015 at 9:20 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: That was stupid. She thinks atheism is the disbelief in Gods. She's mute to the silence. An easy way to convert her is to prove to her there is a God. You messed that up.

An easy way to convert us all, is to prove there is a god. 

Atheism is not a dogmatic position. 


If you were actually reading all the responses to your posts, you would notice a pretty common theme. And that is, that we are atheists because we are unconvinced by the arguments put forth by theists that a god exists.

If we were convinced, then we wouldn't be atheists. 

I get the impression that you do not understand how basic logic and critical thinking work.

I get the impression that you don't understand the meaning of my opening post. You must make a choice to believe in God simon moon. You ask that question to anyone in the world and you will discover that it is quite simply true.

And abundantly obvious. But simple minded atheists would never understand it.

And a christian would never- and I do mean ever- stoop so low as to prove to you that there is a God.

(October 13, 2015 at 9:42 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: [...]
And a christian would never- and I do mean ever- stoop so low as to prove to you that there is a God.

That's because you couldn't - even if you sh*t yourselves trying...

(October 13, 2015 at 8:56 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: Yeah no kidding, how is jew burning not atheism. lmao

religions are the cause of horror genocide and destruction the world over fighting and murdering people of a certain religious faith is not something atheists are interested in .

Why not pastafarianism? It is after all the only correct belief system.

(October 13, 2015 at 9:42 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: And a christian would never- and I do mean ever- stoop so low as to prove to you that there is a God.

(October 13, 2015 at 9:42 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: And a christian would never- and I do mean ever- stoop so low as to prove to you that there is a God.

So much for Christian 'humility'...

(October 13, 2015 at 8:56 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: Yeah no kidding, how is jew burning not atheism. lmao

I declare you a poe and a very shitty one at that.
Moving on.

(October 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm)JBrentonK Wrote:

(October 13, 2015 at 9:27 pm)Beccs Wrote: I KNOW atheism is a non belief in god, however someone my actually try to interpret that for themselves.

If it's easy to convert me with evidence, why have hundreds of Christians, and others, from across the globe failed to do so?

Is it because their evidence is lacking?

Beccs I hate to put this like this to you but yes. The theist "religion" is actually DIFFERENT than atheism. If you ever actuallly meet a sincere theist one day, you will undoubtedly be convinced.

It is also not the evidence you provide. It's the way you approach the topic you're presenting. You can be a balls to the wall atheist, hard pressed, finger pressing or whatever, but if you are not sincere, you will never see the actual battle theists see as it really does unfold. It's all about the evidence anyhow beccs, trying to intepret God is actually the first thing christians jump to (as compared to you atheists). Therefore, convincing you God is real is as easy as convincing a child.

I fail simply to see how so many have failed to convince you.

Yes, I know theism is different from atheism: that's the point we've been making.  Atheism is a non belief in deities.

Oh, the "not real Christian™" argument.

The various theists, whether Christian, Muslim or, in one memorable instance, Scientologist, have been VERY sincere, devout, and determined.

It's their evidence that is always lacking.  It always comes down to personal experiences, claims from incredulity, or, when all else fails, threats of an imaginary torment.

And I've encountered plenty who have made the same claims I'm seeing here: variants of "Just open your heart" (something difficult, even for a cardiologist), and the like.