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RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 3:35 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 3:07 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Paul was the greatest liar and BS'er since the crazy old coot Abraham. He'll lie in a nanosecond in order to convince people of his BS.
1 Corinthians 9:22 (CEB) = "I act weak to the weak, so I can recruit the weak. I have become all things to all people, so I could save some by all possible means."
start at 19:
19 I am free. I belong to no other person, but I make myself a slave to everyone. I do this to help save as many people as I can. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew so that I could help save Jews. I myself am not ruled by the law, but to those who are ruled by the law I became like someone who is ruled by the law. I did this to help save those who are ruled by the law. 21 To those who are without the law I became like someone who is without the law. I did this to help save those who are without the law. (But really, I am not without God’s law—I am ruled by the law of Christ.) 22 To those who are weak, I became weak so that I could help save them. I have become all things to all people. I did this so that I could save people in any way possible. 23 I do all this to make the Good News known. I do it so that I can share in the blessings of the Good News.
He explain in Romans why he is free to act this way. be patient we will get to it Lord willing.
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RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 3:44 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 3:34 pm)Hmmm? Wrote: Are you saying Peter and a few others were judaizers? Whose Peter?
At first the apostles preached primarily to jews and thought that believers needed to follow the jewish law and tradition. Then Peter and Paul were separately given revelation to the contrary. The apostles and elders in Jerusalem considered the matter and wrote a general letter saying that Gentile converts did not need to be circumcised or keep the law except for a couple points. See Acts 10 for Peter's revelation, Acts 15 for the Jerusalem council, and pretty much all of Paul's letters.
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RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 3:49 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 1:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 7:40 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Drich it saddens me that your going to suffer for so long in the afterlife. I don't want this but your so intent on making FSM angry, What can he really do?
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RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 3:50 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 3:35 pm)Drich Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 3:07 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Paul was the greatest liar and BS'er since the crazy old coot Abraham. He'll lie in a nanosecond in order to convince people of his BS.
1 Corinthians 9:22 (CEB) = "I act weak to the weak, so I can recruit the weak. I have become all things to all people, so I could save some by all possible means."
start at 19:
19 I am free. I belong to no other person, but I make myself a slave to everyone. I do this to help save as many people as I can. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew so that I could help save Jews. I myself am not ruled by the law, but to those who are ruled by the law I became like someone who is ruled by the law. I did this to help save those who are ruled by the law. 21 To those who are without the law I became like someone who is without the law. I did this to help save those who are without the law. (But really, I am not without God’s law—I am ruled by the law of Christ.) 22 To those who are weak, I became weak so that I could help save them. I have become all things to all people. I did this so that I could save people in any way possible. 23 I do all this to make the Good News known. I do it so that I can share in the blessings of the Good News.
He explain in Romans why he is free to act this way. be patient we will get to it Lord willing. I would also suggest backing up to 1 Cor 8. Paul gives the example of those who have been raised believing that eating food sacrificed to an idol is in effect worshiping that idol. While he didn't believe that to be the case, it was so ingrained in some people that the sensitive and pragmatic thing to do was to abstain from such food when with those people.
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RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 4:05 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 3:34 pm)Hmmm? Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 3:23 pm)Drich Wrote: Essentially Paul is Speaking to the Circumcised Jew/Judaizer (Gentile converted to Jew then to Christian this was something Peter and a few others taught.)
Are you saying Peter and a few others were judaizers? Whose Peter?
One of the 12, simon/peter. Initially Peter taught as Paul did, but later on got caught up in pandering to the Jewish believers. Peter and Paul had quite a falling out over this 'doctrinal issue' for a time and eventually Peter came back around.
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RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 4:15 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 3:35 pm)Drich Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 3:07 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Paul was the greatest liar and BS'er since the crazy old coot Abraham. He'll lie in a nanosecond in order to convince people of his BS.
1 Corinthians 9:22 (CEB) = "I act weak to the weak, so I can recruit the weak. I have become all things to all people, so I could save some by all possible means."
start at 19:
19 I am free. I belong to no other person, but I make myself a slave to everyone. I do this to help save as many people as I can. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew so that I could help save Jews. I myself am not ruled by the law, but to those who are ruled by the law I became like someone who is ruled by the law. I did this to help save those who are ruled by the law. 21 To those who are without the law I became like someone who is without the law. I did this to help save those who are without the law. (But really, I am not without God’s law—I am ruled by the law of Christ.) 22 To those who are weak, I became weak so that I could help save them. I have become all things to all people. I did this so that I could save people in any way possible. 23 I do all this to make the Good News known. I do it so that I can share in the blessings of the Good News.
He explain in Romans why he is free to act this way. be patient we will get to it Lord willing. Paul was a master liar and manipulator. He admits how he deceived idiots by claiming to be what he wasn't. The book of Revelation claims that all liars will be excluded from the golden cube. So chances are Paul will be in the lake of fire. Isn't that wonderful?
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RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 4:16 pm
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Too bad we don't have "Peter"s side of this little dispute, huh?
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RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 4:18 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 4:05 pm)Drich Wrote: One of the 12, simon/peter. Is that it?
(October 29, 2015 at 4:05 pm)Drich Wrote: Initially Peter taught as Paul did, but later on got caught up in pandering to the Jewish believers. Peter and Paul had quite a falling out over this 'doctrinal issue' for a time and eventually Peter came back around. Are you sure?
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RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 4:18 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 4:05 pm)Drich Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 3:34 pm)Hmmm? Wrote: Are you saying Peter and a few others were judaizers? Whose Peter?
One of the 12, simon/peter. Initially Peter taught as Paul did, but later on got caught up in pandering to the Jewish believers. Peter and Paul had quite a falling out over this 'doctrinal issue' for a time and eventually Peter came back around.
Peter had supposedly spent years paling around with Jesus. Paul never met Jesus. But Paul shows up and flimflams Peter about Jesus. So Peter was an imbecile.
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RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
October 29, 2015 at 4:27 pm
(October 29, 2015 at 3:44 pm)alpha male Wrote: At first the apostles preached primarily to jews and thought that believers needed to follow the jewish law and tradition. Then Peter and Paul were separately given revelation to the contrary. The apostles and elders in Jerusalem considered the matter and wrote a general letter saying that Gentile converts did not need to be circumcised or keep the law except for a couple points. See Acts 10 for Peter's revelation, Acts 15 for the Jerusalem council, and pretty much all of Paul's letters.
Acts 10:28 God showed Peter he shouldn't call any man common or unclean.
Acts 15:19-21 James says, don't trouble the gentiles, But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. (The rest they'll learn at the synagogue) For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. (1cor 8:4, 1jn 5:21)
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