(January 3, 2011 at 7:41 pm)Darwinian Wrote:

(January 3, 2011 at 7:35 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Well, there actuall was a T-shirt, but I didn't get one due to my being a fat ass and Dar didn't order enough XXLs... sob

I might have a couple somewhere if you still want one

Dude, totally want! I'll PM you with my deets and we can work something out.

(January 3, 2011 at 5:23 pm)barboft Wrote: Do you atheists have any rules about what you can or can't do?

Oh dear,ANOTHER one.

An atheist is simply a person who does not believe in God(s), period.

Atheism is NOT a world view,a philosophy,a moral code,ideology, religion or club.

"As an atheist" I have no views on any other matter whatsoever.However, I DO have many views as a skeptic,moral relativist,cynic;realist,egoist and misanthrope. (to use only a few of dozens of labels which may be used to describe aspects of the person which is myself)

(January 3, 2011 at 7:42 pm)Shell B Wrote:

(January 3, 2011 at 7:35 pm)barboft Wrote: Aaah, I see. Atheism is not a belief system, worldview, philosophy, or religion. You prefer the handy word "presupposition". Gotcha. You simply "presuppose" that there's no god. Right. Thanks for clearing that one up. Cheers.

Just like you presuppose that atheists lead immoral lives because they aren't Christian. (Yes, I can read between the lines.)

You couldn't be further from the truth, little miss knowitall. I actually don't believe that at all. So much for your reading between the lines.

(January 3, 2011 at 5:43 pm)barboft Wrote: So you're allowed to do pretty much anything you like. Doesn't that lead to chaos?

Well, there's still laws of the state, and atheists, as subjects of a state, are still technically bound to the laws of said state, just the same as any Christian, Jew, &c. Of course, like any other citizen, they can choose to follow those laws or not. Fortunately, most choose to follow them. You see, we recognise that laws come from people; but don't assume that precludes them from being good ideas.

(January 3, 2011 at 7:47 pm)padraic Wrote:

(January 3, 2011 at 5:23 pm)barboft Wrote: Do you atheists have any rules about what you can or can't do?

Oh dear,ANOTHER one.

An atheist is simply a person who does not believe in God(s), period.

Atheism is NOT a world view,a philosophy,a moral code,ideology, religion or club.

"As an atheist" I have no views on any other matter whatsoever.However, I DO have many views as a skeptic,moral relativist,cynic;realist,egoist and misanthrope. (to use only a few of dozens of labels which may be used to describe aspects of the person which is myself)

Well let's agree to disagree (if you can live with that). I know some atheists and they all insist that atheism is a worldview and a philosophy. So if it's all the same to you I think I'll make up my own mind about your worldview and philosophy.

Yeah, "I'm an atheist" is an answer to the question "Do you believe in god?" This thread makes sense not so much. It would be like asking someone if they like pizza and if they said no, carrying on a line of question that goes something like this:

As one who doesn't like pizza how would people like you vote in the upcoming election?

Do people who don't like pizza believe in souls?

Oh, so you don't like pizza huh? Well what is the favorite color of people who don't like pizza?

Can people who don't like pizza live happy productive lives?

What about frogs?

(January 3, 2011 at 7:53 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Yeah, "I'm an atheist" is an answer to the question "Do you believe in god?" This thread makes sense not so much. It would be like asking someone if they like pizza and if they said no, carrying on a line of question that goes something like this:

As one who doesn't like pizza how would people like you vote in the upcoming election?

Do people who don't like pizza believe in souls?

Oh, so you don't like pizza huh? Well what is the favorite color of people who don't like pizza?

Can people who don't like pizza live happy productive lives?

What about frogs?

I think a good lie down is in order, mate.

(January 3, 2011 at 7:51 pm)barboft Wrote: Well let's agree to disagree (if you can live with that). I know some atheists and they all insist that atheism is a worldview and a philosophy. So if it's all the same to you I think I'll make up my own mind about your worldview and philosophy.

That will certainly save you the time it would take to actually form a correct opinion.

(January 3, 2011 at 7:50 pm)barboft Wrote: You couldn't be further from the truth, little miss knowitall. I actually don't believe that at all. So much for your reading between the lines.

You'll be happy to know that your reaction just reaffirms my opinion of the direction you are feebly attempting to lead this conversation.

Sincerely,

little miss knowitall

(I'll have you know that signing my name with improper capitalization and no spaces between words pained me and I now need a hug.)

(January 3, 2011 at 8:02 pm)Shell B Wrote: (I'll have you know that signing my name with improper capitalization and no spaces between words pained me and I now need a hug.)

I'd be happy to give you that hug!
*Ace opens his arms*