Satire, done properly, is a funhouse mirror held up to sacred cows; exaggerating the most prominent and egregious features so as to expose the truth lying concealed behind the mask. Maybe if the RCC doesn't like what it sees, it shouldn't blame the mirror. But I wouldn't expect any other reaction from an institution with a disturbing habit - habit, geddit? - of blaming the victims for the church's failings.

(January 7, 2016 at 4:23 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Satire, done properly, is a funhouse mirror held up to sacred cows; exaggerating the most prominent and egregious features so as to expose the truth lying concealed behind the mask. Maybe if the RCC doesn't like what it sees, it shouldn't blame the mirror. But I wouldn't expect any other reaction from an institution with a disturbing habit - habit, geddit? - of blaming the victims for the church's failings.

Problem is, the sacred cow looking in the mirror, does not have the ability to see the truth behind the satire. It only sees it as insult.

Just look at Dritch equating base insult with witty satire. When the satire is aimed at his sacred cow, he has no ability to see it as anything but insult.

(January 7, 2016 at 4:23 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Satire, done properly, is a funhouse mirror held up to sacred cows; exaggerating the most prominent and egregious features so as to expose the truth lying concealed behind the mask. Maybe if the RCC doesn't like what it sees, it shouldn't blame the mirror. But I wouldn't expect any other reaction from an institution with a disturbing habit - habit, geddit? - of blaming the victims for the church's failings.

brother, satire is the douche bag form of bullying, only it's not called bullying because douche bags have bann that word. so they came up with 'satire' to describe what by all rights is indeed nothing more than one group bullying another group who is different by mocking a predominate trait of those not in the 'satirical' group/the cool kid group, IN An Excepted Way, By Other Douche Bags. Satirists are not the mirror, they are the kids mocking the one pictured in the mirror, and are allowed to get away with it because they are liked/cool.

What is truly sad of all satirists, that they are, no better than those in whom they hate/mock, and don't even know it. Most of them don't/won't ever see themselves as the monsters they make others out to be. That what makes satire different than bullying. Bullies know that they are doing wrong, a satirist has been made 'morally right' by bullying the social dregs of a douche bag society.

In contrast, true compassion and understanding (What douche bags pretend to be) doesn't need a 'fun house mirror' to point out the flaws in other groups of people no matter how different or even backwards they may be. It makes allowances and can work around or even offer to help fix a problem, rather than just point out exaggerated perceived weakness in others. satirist seek out weakness to one end alone, and that is the exploitation of it.

And fuckheads like you need to be mocked.

(January 7, 2016 at 5:32 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 7, 2016 at 4:23 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Satire, done properly, is a funhouse mirror held up to sacred cows; exaggerating the most prominent and egregious features so as to expose the truth lying concealed behind the mask. Maybe if the RCC doesn't like what it sees, it shouldn't blame the mirror. But I wouldn't expect any other reaction from an institution with a disturbing habit - habit, geddit? - of blaming the victims for the church's failings.

brother, satire is the douche bag form of bullying, only it's not called bullying because douche bags have bann that word. so they came up with 'satire' to describe what by all rights is indeed nothing more than one group bullying another group who is different by mocking a predominate trait of those not in the 'satirical' group/the cool kid group, IN An Excepted Way, By Other Douche Bags. Satirists are not the mirror, they are the kids mocking the one pictured in the mirror, and are allowed to get away with it because they are liked/cool.

What is truly sad of all satirists, that they are, no better than those in whom they hate/mock, and don't even know it. Most of them don't/won't ever see themselves as the monsters they make others out to be. That what makes satire different than bullying. Bullies know that they are doing wrong, a satirist has been made 'morally right' by bullying the social dregs of a douche bag society.

In contrast, true compassion and understanding (What douche bags pretend to be) doesn't need a 'fun house mirror' to point out the flaws in other groups of people no matter how different or even backwards they may be. It makes allowances and can work around or even offer to help fix a problem, rather than just point out exaggerated perceived weakness in others. satirist seek out weakness to one end alone, and that is the exploitation of it.

Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what Jonathon Swift was up to, Shit-For-Brains. 

Bulllying is perniciously attacking a target that can't defend itself or fight back. A criminal organisation like the RCC can hardly be called a victim. Drichy, you satirise yourself and don't even know it.

(January 7, 2016 at 5:32 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 7, 2016 at 4:23 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Satire, done properly, is a funhouse mirror held up to sacred cows; exaggerating the most prominent and egregious features so as to expose the truth lying concealed behind the mask. Maybe if the RCC doesn't like what it sees, it shouldn't blame the mirror. But I wouldn't expect any other reaction from an institution with a disturbing habit - habit, geddit? - of blaming the victims for the church's failings.

brother, satire is the douche bag form of bullying, only it's not called bullying because douche bags have bann that word. so they came up with 'satire' to describe what by all rights is indeed nothing more than one group bullying another group who is different by mocking a predominate trait of those not in the 'satirical' group/the cool kid group, IN An Excepted Way, By Other Douche Bags. Satirists are not the mirror, they are the kids mocking the one pictured in the mirror, and are allowed to get away with it because they are liked/cool.

What is truly sad of all satirists, that they are, no better than those in whom they hate/mock, and don't even know it. Most of them don't/won't ever see themselves as the monsters they make others out to be. That what makes satire different than bullying. Bullies know that they are doing wrong, a satirist has been made 'morally right' by bullying the social dregs of a douche bag society.

In contrast, true compassion and understanding (What douche bags pretend to be) doesn't need a 'fun house mirror' to point out the flaws in other groups of people no matter how different or even backwards they may be. It makes allowances and can work around or even offer to help fix a problem, rather than just point out exaggerated perceived weakness in others. satirist seek out weakness to one end alone, and that is the exploitation of it.

Very well said. +1

(January 7, 2016 at 5:35 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:

(January 7, 2016 at 5:32 pm)Drich Wrote: brother, satire is the douche bag form of bullying, only it's not called bullying because douche bags have bann that word. so they came up with 'satire' to describe what by all rights is indeed nothing more than one group bullying another group who is different by mocking a predominate trait of those not in the 'satirical' group/the cool kid group, IN An Excepted Way, By Other Douche Bags. Satirists are not the mirror, they are the kids mocking the one pictured in the mirror, and are allowed to get away with it because they are liked/cool.

What is truly sad of all satirists, that they are, no better than those in whom they hate/mock, and don't even know it. Most of them don't/won't ever see themselves as the monsters they make others out to be. That what makes satire different than bullying. Bullies know that they are doing wrong, a satirist has been made 'morally right' by bullying the social dregs of a douche bag society.

In contrast, true compassion and understanding (What douche bags pretend to be) doesn't need a 'fun house mirror' to point out the flaws in other groups of people no matter how different or even backwards they may be. It makes allowances and can work around or even offer to help fix a problem, rather than just point out exaggerated perceived weakness in others. satirist seek out weakness to one end alone, and that is the exploitation of it.

Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what Jonathon Swift was up to, Shit-For-Brains. 

Or Twain, Lewis Carroll, Seuss, Tom Lehrer,  Jules Feifer, Vonnegut, Bradbury, O'Henry, George Bernard Shaw and on, and on...

Just more evidence that Dritch has no idea what satire actually is, despite his frantic hand waving above.

Quote:Very well said. +1

Mystic, you don't want to hitch your horse to Dritch's lack of understanding of what satire is.

You are not helping his, or your, case.

(January 7, 2016 at 5:49 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:

(January 7, 2016 at 5:35 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what Jonathon Swift was up to, Shit-For-Brains. 

Or Twain, Lewis Carroll, Seuss, Tom Lehrer,  Jules Feifer, Vonnegut, Bradbury, O'Henry, George Bernard Shaw and on, and on...

Just more evidence that Dritch has no idea what satire actually is, despite his frantic hand waving above.

Well, when you've only bothered to actually read one book . . .

(January 7, 2016 at 5:32 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 7, 2016 at 4:23 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Satire, done properly, is a funhouse mirror held up to sacred cows; exaggerating the most prominent and egregious features so as to expose the truth lying concealed behind the mask. Maybe if the RCC doesn't like what it sees, it shouldn't blame the mirror. But I wouldn't expect any other reaction from an institution with a disturbing habit - habit, geddit? - of blaming the victims for the church's failings.

brother, satire is the douche bag form of bullying, only it's not called bullying because douche bags have bann that word. so they came up with 'satire' to describe what by all rights is indeed nothing more than one group bullying another group who is different by mocking a predominate trait of those not in the 'satirical' group/the cool kid group, IN An Excepted Way, By Other Douche Bags. Satirists are not the mirror, they are the kids mocking the one pictured in the mirror, and are allowed to get away with it because they are liked/cool.

What is truly sad of all satirists, that they are, no better than those in whom they hate/mock, and don't even know it. Most of them don't/won't ever see themselves as the monsters they make others out to be. That what makes satire different than bullying. Bullies know that they are doing wrong, a satirist has been made 'morally right' by bullying the social dregs of a douche bag society.

In contrast, true compassion and understanding (What douche bags pretend to be) doesn't need a 'fun house mirror' to point out the flaws in other groups of people no matter how different or even backwards they may be. It makes allowances and can work around or even offer to help fix a problem, rather than just point out exaggerated perceived weakness in others. satirist seek out weakness to one end alone, and that is the exploitation of it.

Your suggestion that writers and cartoonists are worse than the vile fanatics who murder innocent people makes me physically sick, you make my fucking stomach churn.