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RE: Free will and humans
March 9, 2016 at 9:53 pm
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It isn't written or coded by humans......talk about ignorance......irony, thy name is Pool.
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RE: Free will and humans
March 9, 2016 at 10:27 pm
(March 9, 2016 at 9:53 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It isn't written or coded by humans......talk about ignorance......irony, thy name is Pool.
So Rhythm, the computer magically came into consciousness and realized it can solve these problems?
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RE: Free will and humans
March 9, 2016 at 10:57 pm
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Magic? WTF are you talking about? Realize?..obviously that's not a requirement. Consciousness?..it does it regardless. It does what you thought impossible, what you though it couldn't. End of story. All of this..regarding your attempt to change the subject and avoid a direct question. Epic fail, imo.
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RE: Free will and humans
March 9, 2016 at 11:03 pm
(March 9, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Magic? WTF are you talking about? Realize?..obviously that's not a requirement. Consciousness?..it does it regardless. It does what you thought impossible, what you though it couldn't. End of story. All of this..regarding your attempt to change the subject and avoid a direct question. Epic fail, imo.
Hehehe Rhythm, computers can't do shit unless they are coded to do something.
And what's with me thinking this was impossible? I don't think it's impossible to code an algorithm into a computer and have it perform a task.
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RE: Free will and humans
March 9, 2016 at 11:06 pm
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(March 9, 2016 at 10:27 pm)pool the great Wrote: (March 9, 2016 at 9:53 pm)Rhythm Wrote: It isn't written or coded by humans......talk about ignorance......irony, thy name is Pool.
So Rhythm, the computer magically came into consciousness and realized it can solve these problems?
I noticed that you did not even reply to my posts, which means that your presence in this thread is at least insincere, if not outright disingenuous. Free will does not exist in human beings; this is absolutely clear in individuals who have schizophrenia, split-brain, temporal lobe epilepsy, Alzheimer's, dementia, aphasia, etc. If you had a stroke in the Broca's area of your brain, your ability to speak would be severly impaired, as well as your ability to understand speech. Such would not be a choice on your part, any more than your brain could choose to violate the Conservation of Energy.
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RE: Free will and humans
March 9, 2016 at 11:11 pm
(March 9, 2016 at 11:06 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (March 9, 2016 at 10:27 pm)pool the great Wrote: So Rhythm, the computer magically came into consciousness and realized it can solve these problems?
I noticed that you did not even reply to my posts, which means that your presence in this thread is at least insincere, if not outright disingenuous. Free will does not exist in human beings; this is absolutely clear in individuals who have schizophrenia, split-brain, temporal lobe epilepsy, Alzheimer's, dementia, aphasia, etc. If you had a stroke in the Broca's area of your brain, your ability to speak would be severly impaired, as well as your ability to understand speech. Such would not be a choice on your part, any more than your brain could choose to violate the Conservation of Energy.
Hi Jen.
If a human can form an algorithm then that human have free will.
Does these diseases hinder humans from forming an algorithm? Then they do not possess free will.
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RE: Free will and humans
March 10, 2016 at 12:11 am
(March 9, 2016 at 11:11 pm)pool the great Wrote: (March 9, 2016 at 11:06 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I noticed that you did not even reply to my posts, which means that your presence in this thread is at least insincere, if not outright disingenuous. Free will does not exist in human beings; this is absolutely clear in individuals who have schizophrenia, split-brain, temporal lobe epilepsy, Alzheimer's, dementia, aphasia, etc. If you had a stroke in the Broca's area of your brain, your ability to speak would be severly impaired, as well as your ability to understand speech. Such would not be a choice on your part, any more than your brain could choose to violate the Conservation of Energy.
Hi Jen.
If a human can form an algorithm then that human have free will.
Does these diseases hinder humans from forming an algorithm? Then they do not possess free will.
How do you know this? If someone has multiple personality disorder and cannot even control which "mind" is active in their brain at any given time, how can you say that such an individual has "free will". It's like saying that if a persona can add 2 + 2 and reach a conclusion of 4, then that person must have free will. Lots of animals, mammalian and reptile, form new algorithms all the time; even bacteria and virtues form new algorithms via natural selection. Are you saying that a virus has "free will"?
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RE: Free will and humans
March 10, 2016 at 1:08 am
(March 10, 2016 at 12:11 am)Jehanne Wrote: (March 9, 2016 at 11:11 pm)pool the great Wrote: Hi Jen.
If a human can form an algorithm then that human have free will.
Does these diseases hinder humans from forming an algorithm? Then they do not possess free will.
How do you know this? If someone has multiple personality disorder and cannot even control which "mind" is active in their brain at any given time, how can you say that such an individual has "free will". It's like saying that if a persona can add 2 + 2 and reach a conclusion of 4, then that person must have free will. Lots of animals, mammalian and reptile, form new algorithms all the time; even bacteria and virtues form new algorithms via natural selection. Are you saying that a virus has "free will"?
I think I didn't make myself clear.
The ability to form an algorithm to any given problem is called free will.
Can your bacteria form an algorithm to slap itself in the face?
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RE: Free will and humans
March 10, 2016 at 1:42 am
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I wish I had the free will to be a butterfly. I like butterflies.
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RE: Free will and humans
March 10, 2016 at 2:14 am
(March 10, 2016 at 1:42 am)Losty Wrote: I wish I had the free will to be a butterfly. I like butterflies.
It's a bit of a too much to ask for absolute free will 
Here you go, I'll give you some relative free will.
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