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RE: Christian answering questions too!
May 1, 2016 at 4:32 pm
(May 1, 2016 at 4:31 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: (May 1, 2016 at 3:33 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: How do you discern what is or is not a misguided Christian practice?
Is the practice based in scripture.
But different sects and different individuals interpret scriptural practices in different ways. How do you know your interpretation is the correct one?
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May 1, 2016 at 4:38 pm
(May 1, 2016 at 3:36 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: What flavour of Christian are you? Pentecostal, catholic Baptist, Jehovah
S witness Mormon or one of the other 5000 or so sects. Are you young earth creation, old earth creation or sane?
I subscribe to the bible. There is a term, sola scriptura, I am fond of. I am, and have always refused to align myself with the many flavors, as you state, of Christianity. They all appear to be in contradiction to the Word on some point or another. I have never been an official member of any church; however I did attend a church regularly for many years.
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RE: Christian answering questions too!
May 1, 2016 at 4:41 pm
(May 1, 2016 at 4:31 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: (May 1, 2016 at 3:33 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: How do you discern what is or is not a misguided Christian practice?
Is the practice based in scripture.
Is any action the Bible promotes permissible?
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RE: Christian answering questions too!
May 1, 2016 at 4:44 pm
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(May 1, 2016 at 3:43 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Hehe, being like the last one offering answers, crickets will soon be heard.
How fun it is to pretend to have answers? Perhaps I should have used the word comment in lieu of answer. Truthfully, it’s not fun at all. Time is a precious and limited commodity and I am the last person that expected me to arrive at this juncture in life.
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(May 1, 2016 at 4:41 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: (May 1, 2016 at 4:31 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Is the practice based in scripture.
Is any action the Bible promotes permissible? That sure has the appearance of a baited question. If there is no God and no eternal judgment then what is not permissible?
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RE: Christian answering questions too!
May 1, 2016 at 5:07 pm
(May 1, 2016 at 4:38 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: [font=Calibri]I subscribe to the bible. There is a term, sola scriptura, I am fond of. [color=#000000][size=medium]
Yeah, I know what sola scriptura means. Some things from my latin classes stuck. But what does that mean for you? Are you a literalist, are you interpreting the meaning, do you have what you considers guidance? I mean, here on this earth, not some supernatural, highly debatable experience.
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RE: Christian answering questions too!
May 1, 2016 at 5:12 pm
Pete, part of the reason they're asking you to which denomination you belong is that it's a favorite tactic of Christians who come here to say something vague about their religion, and then when we address them via the "flavor" we think they're promoting, they turn and say, "HA! That's not Christianity at all! You atheists just don't understand Christianity!"
Usually, they're just parroting some preacher who told them that such is the case. The fact is, however, that most of us come from strong religious upbringings, and the majority of us have studied the Bible and the religion itself (not necessarily the same thing, as you pointed out) in great detail... which is why we can discuss things from the point of view of a Pentecostal, for instance... but they never tell us which they are, in order to keep that game going. And, of course, all of them claim to have unique insight into what the Bible really says. It's quite annoying.
My question for you is, why the KJV? It happens to be my favorite translation, as I think the poetic language therein makes passages like those in Ecclesiastes and Psalms extraordinarily beautiful, compared to other translations. That said, the KJV is considered by most modern scholars (yes, Christian ones) to be a fairly poor translation, overall, compared to several of the new ones. It was written by a council of English bishops, for the purpose of helping to prop up the king's claim to rulership. If you don't believe me about this, go to any number of theological sites and read about it, or WikiPedia, or really any site that isn't claiming from the get-go that the KJV must be the only version used. I will provide links if you'd like, but I prefer to let you do your own Googling, so it doesn't appear I'm trying to "lead" you anywhere but to the facts.
I've never quite figured out from whence this uniquely American fascination with the KJV comes.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Christian answering questions too!
May 1, 2016 at 5:13 pm
(May 1, 2016 at 4:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (May 1, 2016 at 4:31 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Is the practice based in scripture.
But different sects and different individuals interpret scriptural practices in different ways. How do you know your interpretation is the correct one?
Boru
I suppose there is not a correct one as you state in the sense of one correct linear application with no deviation. The intent and not the practice would be the metric by what is deemed correct or incorrect in many cases. I have read that in regards to sin that what is sinful for one is not necessarily the same for another. If you believe a practice to be wrong, then its is. That does not imply that if one believes something to be ok, then it is not sinful.
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RE: Christian answering questions too!
May 1, 2016 at 5:19 pm
(May 1, 2016 at 4:44 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: (May 1, 2016 at 4:41 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Is any action the Bible promotes permissible? That sure has the appearance of a baited question. If there is no God and no eternal judgment then what is not permissible?
It certainly is a baited question, and that you didn't answer it tells me enough. And what is permissible is wrestled out between yourself and the laws of society.
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RE: Christian answering questions too!
May 1, 2016 at 5:25 pm
(May 1, 2016 at 5:07 pm)abaris Wrote: (May 1, 2016 at 4:38 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: [font=Calibri]I subscribe to the bible. There is a term, sola scriptura, I am fond of. [color=#000000][size=medium]
Yeah, I know what sola scriptura means. Some things from my latin classes stuck. But what does that mean for you? Are you a literalist, are you interpreting the meaning, do you have what you considers guidance? I mean, here on this earth, not some supernatural, highly debatable experience.
Who was that last guy mentioning sola scriptura. Ohhhh.
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RE: Christian answering questions too!
May 1, 2016 at 5:28 pm
(May 1, 2016 at 5:25 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Who was that last guy mentioning sola scriptura. Ohhhh.
It might just be me, but I smell something.
Not sufficiently arrogant. Not yet anyway.
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