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Dr. Craig is a liar.
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Sorry I blew up the thread! I'm always late to the party. This time it was Mafia.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken. Dr. Craig is a liar.
May 9, 2016 at 8:11 pm
(This post was last modified: May 9, 2016 at 9:00 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(May 9, 2016 at 4:36 pm)Time Traveler Wrote:(May 9, 2016 at 3:43 pm)SteveII Wrote: Yeah, this is exactly what I'm having trouble with as well. How is his mindless, thoughtless God able to perform any action at all whilst timeless? What does it even mean to exist timelessly without any consciousness? I'd call that dead...
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken. 
Dr Craig getting destroyed in a debate by Shelly Kagan now that was super fun as fuck
 (May 9, 2016 at 9:07 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Dr Craig getting destroyed in a debate by Shelly Kagan now that was super fun as fuck I relistened to that debate today; Craig was definitively out of his league. Notice how Steve is ignoring my posts; perhaps someone else can answer for him. Quote:If the set of natural numbers is an actual infinite set (most mathematicians say that it is), does "god" have an infinite number of thoughts in his head? Or, is there a natural number that "god" does not know about?  (May 9, 2016 at 10:35 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I would just like to take a moment to appreciate Steve II. Barring any horrible posts of his I may have missed, he is a good sport. He stays composed, and is not easily offended, He's a good speller. And I think he is an all-around nice guy, and an interesting contributor. And by his example, he is living proof that how we treat theists here has a lot to do with how they treat us. I have given up trying to debate him, but I do agree he's a lot more civil and thoughtful than most theists we get through here. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum  (May 9, 2016 at 10:04 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Notice how Steve is ignoring my posts; perhaps someone else can answer for him. You are asking the same thing as "can God make a rock so big that he can't pick it up". No, God cannot do logically impossible things like count all the natural numbers. RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
May 10, 2016 at 10:02 am
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2016 at 10:05 am by The Grand Nudger.)
What prevents god from doing so? What constrains god within those logical boundaries, if god is so constrained? Perhaps you could elaborate upon this force or power that surrounds and limits your god? That, whatever it is, sounds considerably more interesting and informative than this middle-manning "god" business, to me.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Dr. Craig is a liar.
May 10, 2016 at 10:02 am
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(May 10, 2016 at 9:58 am)SteveII Wrote:(May 9, 2016 at 10:04 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Notice how Steve is ignoring my posts; perhaps someone else can answer for him. You say that like it's not a relevant and legitimate question about what you are asserting. Why? Why should an all powerful God be bound by the laws of logic? Did he create them in such a way that he was subsequently constrained by them? You don't get to escape Jehanne's point by saying, "oh, well it's just one of those kinds of questions."
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.  (May 10, 2016 at 9:58 am)SteveII Wrote:(May 9, 2016 at 10:04 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Notice how Steve is ignoring my posts; perhaps someone else can answer for him. If that's the case, then God cannot have created anything out of nothing ... or timelessly created ... or anything of the sort ... (May 10, 2016 at 10:02 am)Rhythm Wrote: What prevents god from doing so? What constrains god within those logical boundaries, if god is so constrained? RHYTHM!!! [HEAVY BLACK HEART]️[HEAVY BLACK HEART]️[HEAVY BLACK HEART]️[HEAVY BLACK HEART]️[HEAVY BLACK HEART]️ We were just talking yesterday about how we missed you! Where have you been?!
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