(May 31, 2016 at 4:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Hey GD.

Why do I feel like we're only getting a small fraction of the story. I got this feeling in another thread of yours. Is there something more you need to be telling us?

I sorta got that feeling as well.

I suggest you take it with patience. You could, really easily, escape from their control and even do whatever you want if you so wish, but it's not going to be in your benefit eventually. Not because they know better, which, of course, they do, you just don't know it yet, but because if you gain too much freedom in the process you'll lose a certain sense of instilled responsibility... forever. - And you'll need it badly eventually.

Don't listen to these guys, this is not about religion or atheism, and I don't know much about your life, but I'm pretty sure the situation is not all that bad that there's a need for any sort of extreme measures. They're your parents. You don't choose your parents and you have to listen to them. Deal with it. At least until you're an adult.

(May 31, 2016 at 4:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Hey GD.

Why do I feel like we're only getting a small fraction of the story. I got this feeling in another thread of yours. Is there something more you need to be telling us?

I dont understand what you are implying? Just be specific.

Wait it out for a next 3 years, get your education, then get a job and then high tail the fuck out of that place. Also go to the fucking doctor while you're at it.

I'm a parent and kids under 18 definitely need limits. I also wouldn't allow my kid to stay up all night on the web.

HOWEVER - I read your thread about your chest pain and your mom saying it was "Jesus knocking on your heart" or some such and I think that was questionable at the very least. Your mom fibbing about your router access is also sketchy, in my opinion. People your age need transparency and guidance in learning how to make good decisions, not just "No" to everything you ask for.

All you can do is get yourself educated - education is freedom. Do you have any plans for college?

(May 31, 2016 at 11:56 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: All you can do is get yourself educated - education is freedom. Do you have any plans for college?

I can't second this enough, GD. I know it seems like a long way off, but college is your ticket to ride. Even if they send you to a Christian school, it's probable that you will actually get a better education overall than the public school system there. I know that public school system, my little brother and his wife were teachers there until two weeks ago. Private schools, even though they are peddling bullshit, still present an awesome opportunity. Really, biology is the only place where you'll be behind, but a high schooler's biology textbook in the American South is pretty lacking no matter what school you go to.

Take AP classes where you can. Christian school or not, AP classes are nationally organized. If you take AP Biology, the course cannot be accredited unless it uses the national textbook/curriculum.

Get great grades. Every day, motivate yourself to be awesome by imagining that day you are packing your bags to go to college. If your parents won't help with tuition, stay in state. There are amazing universities in your state. I'd stay away from the big one near you, because 1) too close, and 2) Go Gators. *chomp But there are other state schools in which financial aid, Pell Grant, and in state lottery fund scholarships make it so even if you had to take loans for all 4 years, you'd only be $15k or so in student loan debt. You'll be miles ahead of your peers. Do well enough in high school and apply for scholarships out the ass, and you could put a huge dent in that number, if not erase it completely. I know kids at the school I'm at that don't even have to have a job because they have scholarships that make them a comfortable living semester to semester.

Taking that level of independence and control of your future will do wonders for your self esteem, too.

You got this.

(May 31, 2016 at 11:56 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: I'm a parent and kids under 18 definitely need limits. I also wouldn't allow my kid to stay up all night on the web.

HOWEVER - I read your thread about your chest pain and your mom saying it was "Jesus knocking on your heart" or some such and I think that was questionable at the very least. Your mom fibbing about your router access is also sketchy, in my opinion. People your age need transparency and guidance in learning how to make good decisions, not just "No" to everything you ask for.

All you can do is get yourself educated - education is freedom. Do you have any plans for college?

(June 1, 2016 at 12:39 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(May 31, 2016 at 11:56 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: All you can do is get yourself educated - education is freedom. Do you have any plans for college?

I can't second this enough, GD. I know it seems like a long way off, but college is your ticket to ride. Even if they send you to a Christian school, it's probable that you will actually get a better education overall than the public school system there. I know that public school system, my little brother and his wife were teachers there until two weeks ago. Private schools, even though they are peddling bullshit, still present an awesome opportunity. Really, biology is the only place where you'll be behind, but a high schooler's biology textbook in the American South is pretty lacking no matter what school you go to.

Take AP classes where you can. Christian school or not, AP classes are nationally organized. If you take AP Biology, the course cannot be accredited unless it uses the national textbook/curriculum.

Get great grades. Every day, motivate yourself to be awesome by imagining that day you are packing your bags to go to college. If your parents won't help with tuition, stay in state. There are amazing universities in your state. I'd stay away from the big one near you, because 1) too close, and 2) Go Gators. *chomp But there are other state schools in which financial aid, Pell Grant, and in state lottery fund scholarships make it so even if you had to take loans for all 4 years, you'd only be $15k or so in student loan debt. You'll be miles ahead of your peers. Do well enough in high school and apply for scholarships out the ass, and you could put a huge dent in that number, if not erase it completely. I know kids at the school I'm at that don't even have to have a job because they have scholarships that make them a comfortable living semester to semester.

Taking that level of independence and control of your future will do wonders for your self esteem, too.

You got this.

In accordance with the advice above, plan ahead. Plan for getting a job -- how to go about it, how you will get to and from it. Establish a savings plan so that when the time comes to move out you will have a sum of money to work with. Plan your college transition (what major? what school? will you need transportation?)

Failing to plan is planning to fail.

Prior particularly pertinent planning predictably prevents painfully piss poor paltry performance.

Alliteration always 'as an Andalusian accent and absolutely acts as an adventurous activity.

(May 31, 2016 at 9:19 pm)GeneralDog Wrote:

(May 31, 2016 at 4:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Hey GD.

Why do I feel like we're only getting a small fraction of the story. I got this feeling in another thread of yours. Is there something more you need to be telling us?

I dont understand what you are implying? Just be specific.

What were your actions causing your mom to block the internet? Is there a reason that your mom felt she needed to lie to you? Have you circumvented her will in the past? How many times has this happened in the past?

As for the chest pain, have you had a previous episode/symptoms (other than the one in your thread) where you did receive a diagnosis/treatment? Is there a reason why they discounted the symptoms other than they are horrible parents/brother? It appears that you were OK with their lack of action, in fact OK with your on lack of action, why is that?

I think your only giving us your side and that is limited to what you want us to hear, not what actually happened?