(June 16, 2016 at 3:41 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 12:40 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: That, too.  Of course, Drich seems to be one of those people who focuses more on the "They hate the West!" portion of what the groups do than the "They also hate each other, and kill each other!" portion.  Al-Qaeda and ISIS, despite their surface similarities, are most definitely not allies.  Anyone claiming to be acting on the behalf of both doesn't know what they're talking about, which is exactly why such claims can be safely ignored.

He also claimed allegiance to Hezbollah, which is currently in combat alongside Assad's troops in Syria ... against ISIS.

So he didn't even know basic facts about his own religion? What a murderous idiot!

Find me one that does?

(June 16, 2016 at 1:01 pm)abaris Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 9:55 am)Drich Wrote: But, the war islam/isis is waging is not against that minority population, it's against all of us.

Islam isn't waging any war, but it takes a higher paygrade of braincells to realize that. For every Western victim of Islamist terrorist organisations, there are at least a hundred muslim victims. But, of course, you miss that, since you stay wilfully uninformed and ignorant.

No surprise there. You simply lump the whole religion together. But, of course, when it comes to pastors spewing their hatred, it's just a few bad apples. They're your home team after all.

So no war huh???

Maybe look up the word Jihad. Then look at how ISIS THE ISLAMIC STATE is classifying their actions against the west.

(June 16, 2016 at 11:24 am)dyresand Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 11:03 am)Drich Wrote: Your missing the point.

You are trying to use an event that has nothing to do with guns to impose your thoughts on gun legislation.

This is the very same thing the Lgbt leaders are doing, by claiming this was an attack against gay people when clearly the attacker claimed his motivations was an attack on the west for waging war on 'his people.'

This is a disgusting practice. You are changing facts to suit your own propaganda your own agenda. You are cashing in on the deaths and injury's of people who may not support or at the very least have nothing to do with your reasoning for (in this case) gun control.

How can you not see that the NRA has absolutely nothing to do with pressure cooker bombs?

Or do you not care?

Is stacking the deck in your favor (lying) considered 'moral' if your point is made and the change you want happens?

I don't need to use a single even i can point out the obvious gun related crime i don't need to point out mass shootings. 


Okay you piece of shit i am not arguing to take peoples guns away we have the second amendment. Love guns hate guns etc i don't care.
All i am fucking saying is make gun laws stricter against people who have mental ilnesses and a criminal record and prevent them from buying guns
so no one gets killed and or hurt. Don't put words into my mouth you sick son of a bitch i have family member that died he was a just a kid
on the way home from the store and unfortunately for him wrong place wrong time he got caught in a drive by and was killed. And the reason
why i stress common sense gun laws it to prevent people who have ill intentions from getting guns. I am not furthering any sort of agenda.

would it make you feel better if your family member was killed by someone driving by and tossing out an explosive devise instead of a gun?

What you do not seem to get is if someone intends to kill someone else in a big way it does not matter what they do there will be death on a massive scale. a gun is a tool. Saying guns are the only thing responsible for killing people is like saying spoons make people fat, or key boards misspell words. again all these items share one common factor. They are tools or rather extensions of individual people's will. If a fat man is hell bent on eating a whole pie he does not need a spoon to do so. like wise If I'm going to mis spell a word I don't need this key board to do it. Again the problem is with your specific world view. you do not hold individuals responsible for their actions. If you did then you would not be so foolish as to try and ban or restrict a tool, but address the bigger mental stability or even religious issue this country is facing.

(June 17, 2016 at 4:08 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 3:41 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: He also claimed allegiance to Hezbollah, which is currently in combat alongside Assad's troops in Syria ... against ISIS.

So he didn't even know basic facts about his own religion? What a murderous idiot!

Well, neither one of those is a religion, but I get your point.

(June 16, 2016 at 12:36 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 9:21 am)Drich Wrote: ah, no.. we are talking about the police chief stabbed in his home (in FRANCE)

So this is non-gun debate about a mass shooting. Lets talk about world war 2 without mentioning the Nazis.

and we can talk about the member of the british parlment who was also shot in killed in a no gun country... so how are all those rules working out for ya?

Again, spoons don't make people fat!

(June 16, 2016 at 12:40 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 12:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Actually..I think that it indicates ignorance.

That, too.  Of course, Drich seems to be one of those people who focuses more on the "They hate the West!" portion of what the groups do than the "They also hate each other, and kill each other!" portion.  Al-Qaeda and ISIS, despite their surface similarities, are most definitely not allies.  Anyone claiming to be acting on the behalf of both doesn't know what they're talking about, which is exactly why such claims can be safely ignored.

Their People tainted by the west...

I'm not sure why you have any gripe against the nazis..were their actions any different than how your god handles the disease of sin?

(June 16, 2016 at 1:01 pm)abaris Wrote:

(June 16, 2016 at 9:55 am)Drich Wrote: But, the war islam/isis is waging is not against that minority population, it's against all of us.

Islam isn't waging any war, but it takes a higher paygrade of braincells to realize that. For every Western victim of Islamist terrorist organisations, there are at least a hundred muslim victims. But, of course, you miss that, since you stay wilfully uninformed and ignorant.

No surprise there. You simply lump the whole religion together. But, of course, when it comes to pastors spewing their hatred, it's just a few bad apples. They're your home team after all.

My point is unles THEY (moderate Islam) speaks out against the extremeists then it is not I who lumps them together, but they who condone such actions.