(July 11, 2016 at 9:52 pm)paulpablo Wrote:

(July 11, 2016 at 8:49 pm)Thena323 Wrote: Who said racial bias is the ONLY factor, paulpablo? I sure as hell didn't.

I said previously that I was replying to this comment not made by you.....

Quote: For there to be absolutely no racial bias in these killings, only 10-15% of police brutality victims should be black. It's far more than 15% going on the frequency of which we hear about it compared to whites being killed.

I'm saying there are other factors was in response to this person saying that if there was no racial bias the victims of police brutality should align with population sizes. 

I then said I think there are other factors like rates of resisting arrest and overall crime rates and contact with the police that probably also contribute. You wouldn't expect asian and black rates of police brutality to totally align with their population sizes when one groups crime rate towers above the other therefore making one group have way more interaction with the police. Again I'm not saying the police should dish out more brutality, but just from the law of averages it's bound to make a contribution to the likelyhood of an act of brutality from the police the more contact someone has with them.

From what I can see Asians make up 5% of the population but they are 2% of all the police killings.
Which is the exact opposite of the statistics for black people. If the differences are just because of racial bias this means the police inherently love Asians, like white people, act fairly to hispanics, and dislike black people. That's if you ignore factors like crime rate and resisting arrest and focus on racial bias.

I agree that the police being prejudice is bad for minorities.

I was talking about the crips in an unrelated matter to do with the specific website I posted a few pages back.

http://www.asian-nation.org/model-minority.shtml

(July 12, 2016 at 12:45 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: I'm agreeing with you. I was pointing out that paulpablo shouldn't really be that suprised as UK police forces have the same problem as regarding targeting blacks as the US does (apart from the gun deaths factor, as UK police generally don't carry guns).

You should have read my link before jumping to conclusions.

Every police force has. That's from a famous cartoonist right after Obama got elected in '08. After a series of police brutality against black people made headlines in Vienna.

(July 11, 2016 at 5:11 pm)Losty Wrote: Dude talked about race for 6 minutes then says "but this isn't about race, no one wants a race war" really?

He didn't even say that. Swear people just listen to whatever they want and jump on board the circle jerk.

(July 12, 2016 at 12:54 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:

(July 11, 2016 at 9:52 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I said previously that I was replying to this comment not made by you.....


I'm saying there are other factors was in response to this person saying that if there was no racial bias the victims of police brutality should align with population sizes. 

I then said I think there are other factors like rates of resisting arrest and overall crime rates and contact with the police that probably also contribute. You wouldn't expect asian and black rates of police brutality to totally align with their population sizes when one groups crime rate towers above the other therefore making one group have way more interaction with the police. Again I'm not saying the police should dish out more brutality, but just from the law of averages it's bound to make a contribution to the likelyhood of an act of brutality from the police the more contact someone has with them.

From what I can see Asians make up 5% of the population but they are 2% of all the police killings.
Which is the exact opposite of the statistics for black people. If the differences are just because of racial bias this means the police inherently love Asians, like white people, act fairly to hispanics, and dislike black people. That's if you ignore factors like crime rate and resisting arrest and focus on racial bias.

I agree that the police being prejudice is bad for minorities.

I was talking about the crips in an unrelated matter to do with the specific website I posted a few pages back.

http://www.asian-nation.org/model-minority.shtml

Which part of what that website says are you referencing in your reply? I'm in my phone so it's more difficult to read from.
All I read from what I could see is the website is saying some Asians do worse than others in education I couldn't find the part which has anything to do with my post, admittedly I didn't read through the whole site

(July 11, 2016 at 10:00 pm)Irrational Wrote: Think this might be relevant:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_racism

I've seen some of his stuff before. Same old subjective far left SJW crap. Throws out the victim card, plays the blame game, not much to say about taking personal responsibility for oneself, yada, yada, yada.

(July 12, 2016 at 4:08 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(July 11, 2016 at 10:00 pm)Irrational Wrote: Think this might be relevant:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_racism

I've seen some of his stuff before. Same old subjective far left SJW crap. Throws out the victim card, plays the blame game, not much to say about taking personal responsibility for oneself, yada, yada, yada.

Your attitude is exactly what illustrates modern/symbolic racism, though. That you're in denial about it doesn't mean it ain't true. In fact, I don't even expect you to agree. I just posted this link for the benefit of any reader unaware of this phenomenon and willing to learn about it.

More from Paul Joseph Watson...infowars.com

Quote:Despite the revelation that half of the officers charged in the death of Freddie Gray – the incident that led to the Baltimore riots – are black, the narrative that black people are being disproportionately and unfairly targeted by predominantly white police officers and a racist criminal justice system in the United States continues to dominate.
This has led to the growth of a divisive movement – ‘Black Lives Matter’ – which has only served to further polarize America down racial lines, obsessing on skin color and invoking white guilt, while ignoring the true causes of and solutions to police brutality.
Until the following facts become part of the conversation, we’re never going to see a real reduction in the number of violent confrontations involving black people and police officers. But the mainstream media, political leaders and white people in general are afraid to even mention these facts for fear of being labeled racist.
I’m not here to win any popularity contests. I genuinely care about less black people and less police officers dying in the streets. So I’m going to give it to you straight.
Black people in the United States are more likely to be victims of violent confrontations with police officers than whites because they commit more violent crimes than whites per capita.
– FACT: Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks commit around half of homicides in the United States. DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, blacks committed 52% of homicides, compared to 45% of homicides committed by whites.
More up to date FBI statistics tell a similar story. In 2013, black criminals carried out 38% of murders, compared to 31.1% for whites, again despite the fact that there are five times more white people in the U.S.
– FACT: From 2011 to 2013, 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black. This figure is three times higher than the 13% black population figure. When you account for the fact that black males aged 15-34, who account for around 3% of the population, are responsible for the vast majority of these crimes, the figures are even more staggering.
– FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.
According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011, 2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.
Critics argue that black people are overrepresented in these figures because they only represent 13% of the population, but they are underrepresented if you factor in violent crime offenders. In other words, you would expect the number of blacks and whites killed by police to be roughly equal given that they commit a roughly equal number of violent crimes, but that’s not the case. Whites are nearly 100% more likely to be victims.
And what about black on white violence in general?
– FACT: Despite being outnumbered by whites five to one, blacks commit eight times more crimes against whites than vice-versa, according to FBI statistics from 2007. A black male is 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse. These figures also show that interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white.

http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-fact...alk-about/

Yeah, infowars.com. That's certainly credible, lol.

(July 12, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Irrational Wrote:

(July 12, 2016 at 4:08 pm)A Theist Wrote: I've seen some of his stuff before. Same old subjective far left SJW crap. Throws out the victim card, plays the blame game, not much to say about taking personal responsibility for oneself, yada, yada, yada.

Your attitude is exactly what illustrates modern/symbolic racism, though. That you're in denial about it doesn't mean it ain't true. In fact, I don't even expect you to agree. I just posted this link for the benefit of any reader unaware of this phenomenon and willing to learn about it.

Always the end argument of an SJW when you disagree with them, "You're a racist!" Disagreeing with that guy doesn't make anyone a racist. I think he's naive and injects too much of his own socio/political views into his so-called research.

(July 12, 2016 at 4:35 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(July 12, 2016 at 4:21 pm)Irrational Wrote: Your attitude is exactly what illustrates modern/symbolic racism, though. That you're in denial about it doesn't mean it ain't true. In fact, I don't even expect you to agree. I just posted this link for the benefit of any reader unaware of this phenomenon and willing to learn about it.

Always the end argument of an SJW when you disagree with them, "You're a racist!" Disagreeing with that guy doesn't make anyone a racist. I think he's naive and injects too much of his own socio/political views into his so-called research.

Who's he? There's more than one, you know. This is pretty much well-accepted in social psychology.