(August 19, 2016 at 7:52 pm)Jehanne Wrote: She, on the other hand, is a warm, loving person in her private and work life, but in her public life, she comes across as being at least a little bitchy.  Everyone knows it, but no one is going to use the "b-word", which means that you should not, either.  Worst off, she's not very feminine, and rarely, if ever, wears any skirts.  Most American women don't like that, and only the vocal ones who do like it show-up on national news to talk about it.  Most American women only say that they want equality; deep down, it's more about a "first among equals"-type thing with men.  As that "Big Fat Greek" movie said, most women want control of "the neck" and not "the head".  It may not be PC, but it's true.  (And, on an editorial note, this being an atheist board, this message will not be popular here, but most American women, for worse, are soft-faith theistic believers of some sort, mostly, the shallow, social type.)

Wow, hate women much?

I prefer to just think that he's a sexist cunt who shall no longer receive my kudos even when he's right provided I even remember him.

The "What Will the Crazy Climate Change-Believing Liberals Do to the Economy" card is an interesting angle, and it certainly could help Trump stoke working class fears of another economic downturn, but that just underscores his broader path to victory -- his only chance, really -- which is to foster and encourage fear as such: fear of another recession, fear of terrorists, fear of brown-skinned people generally, fear of "liberal elites", etc. His entire schtick is nothing other than the usual GOP bullshit writ large (or YUGE, if you prefer).

If Clinton didn't have so many negatives affecting people's perceptions of her, there would be no discussion about Trump's possible path to victory. The man is electoral poison. But he actually has a vanishingly slim chance to turn his campaign around, despite doing his damnedest to tank it at every turn. I think it's too little too late. But if he can stay on point and relentlessly hammer on Clinton while playing on peoples' insecurities . . . he could see a spike in support come October. I doubt he is that disciplined, and the electoral math doesn't favor his chances at all. But then, if anyone had asked me in 2004 about Bush's prospects for re-election, I would have burst out laughing. We know how that went. Fear is the Republican brand these days, and it is a dangerous and heady brew.

@ScienceAF: By all means, read Rand. Then cleanse your mental palate and read something good. I suppose she is one of those writers all people should read at some point (preferably at your age), but I think you'll find yourself outgrowing her 'charms' pretty quickly. I find her narrative voice shrill and unpleasant in the extreme. Her fictional prose is wooden; her characters (heroes and villains alike) are bloodless cutouts; and she never met a caricature or straw man she didn't like and wouldn't apply to her perceived philosophical/cultural/political enemies. I remember reading some of her non-fiction and just gaping at the page in disbelief as she 'dispensed' with one philosophical better after another in the most ham-handed and unfair manner possible. But look on the bright side, once you're done with her, your copy of Atlas Shrugged will make a nice door jam, or you can use the fucking thing to press flowers.

(August 20, 2016 at 11:55 am)Whateverist Wrote:

(August 19, 2016 at 7:52 pm)Jehanne Wrote: She, on the other hand, is a warm, loving person in her private and work life, but in her public life, she comes across as being at least a little bitchy.  Everyone knows it, but no one is going to use the "b-word", which means that you should not, either.  Worst off, she's not very feminine, and rarely, if ever, wears any skirts.  Most American women don't like that, and only the vocal ones who do like it show-up on national news to talk about it.  Most American women only say that they want equality; deep down, it's more about a "first among equals"-type thing with men.  As that "Big Fat Greek" movie said, most women want control of "the neck" and not "the head".  It may not be PC, but it's true.  (And, on an editorial note, this being an atheist board, this message will not be popular here, but most American women, for worse, are soft-faith theistic believers of some sort, mostly, the shallow, social type.)

Wow, hate women much?

No, not at all!  In fact, my mother was a woman!!  But, yes, your comment is typical of feminists, but speaking solely from an anthropological POV, your view of women in the US is not how they see themselves, for the most part.

(August 20, 2016 at 11:56 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I prefer to just think that he's a sexist cunt who shall no longer receive my kudos even when he's right provided I even remember him.

No, you're missing completely the point that I am trying to make.

P.S. My commentary was, in no way, reflective of my own views of women. (In fact, I fully support the feminist movement!!!) In addition, I like Hillary very, very much, and am planning on voting for her!

(August 20, 2016 at 11:56 am)Crossless1 Wrote: The "What Will the Crazy Climate Change-Believing Liberals Do to the Economy" card is an interesting angle, and it certainly could help Trump stoke working class fears of another economic downturn, but that just underscores his broader path to victory -- his only chance, really -- which is to foster and encourage fear as such: fear of another recession, fear of terrorists, fear of brown-skinned people generally, fear of "liberal elites", etc. His entire schtick is nothing other than the usual GOP bullshit writ large (or YUGE, if you prefer).

There is no silver bullet will respect to climate change.  We are simply living on borrowed time; either the World runs out of oil and other fossil fuels, or we, as a species, perish.  Either way, modern-day capitalism has to go.

(August 20, 2016 at 11:46 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(August 20, 2016 at 8:15 am)Jehanne Wrote: And, there are SuperMax prisons that house non-violent offenders.

I wasn't arguing that there are or aren't Supermax prisons for nonviolent criminals. I was saying that lying -- even under oath -- is not a crime worthy of such expensive punishment.

That said, I'd like to see some support for this claim of yours.

Just Google it; there are non-violent offenders who are locked-up in SuperMax prisons.  I am saying that such is at least politically possible; the US has been known to do such things, and if Hillary ended-up in jail under a Republican administration (which is extremely unlikely, a real smoking-gun would have to be found), then such is certainly possible.  Republicans are great at making endless excuses to justify their insane actions; just look at the recent changes in voting laws to disenfranchise blacks and other poorer minorities.

(August 20, 2016 at 11:47 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(August 20, 2016 at 8:22 am)Jehanne Wrote: I am not voting for the asshole who is also a lying adulterous cheater. 

That's good, because he's not running for office.

#informyourselfgoddamnit

Yeah, there is speculation that it's all a stunt.  But, fact is, Trump got more votes in the primary than has any other Republican nominee in US history.  Of course, the US population is still growing, and so, this statistic may be nothing to brag about.

(August 19, 2016 at 11:02 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Unless it's under oath, lying is not a crime, and certainly not a crime worthy of occupying a very expensive S-Max cell.

The crap about women wanting to be first among equals is just that, crap. It's true that some women would like that, but generalizing that to women is sloppy thinking. It sure doesn't comport with my experience, which is that women are happy in a relationship when they simply feel heard.

Yaaaas.....I cannot tell you how many times I get the shits of having to repeat myself over and over and over because the man (and sons) in my life do not hear me.

Listening is one thing... actually hearing what someone says, is another.

(August 20, 2016 at 11:47 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(August 20, 2016 at 8:22 am)Jehanne Wrote: I am not voting for the asshole who is also a lying adulterous cheater. 

That's good, because he's not running for office.

#informyourselfgoddamnit

Best post in this whole thread!