BREAKING: Republican Party suddenly cares about women's health

(September 13, 2016 at 1:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote: BREAKING: Republican Party suddenly cares about women's health

That's a good one. Can you imagine if Carly Fionrina was their nominee after all and she had pneumonia? There wouldn't be the same amount of outrage.

Samantha Bee returned last night.  She gets to the real point around the 7:20 mark.

http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2016/09/s...se-balance

I'm just going to nod and pretend I know who these people are.

Tump is the Silvio Berlisconi of the US he is a joke, a comic figure playing at being a politician and failing by an impressive margin. He is a buffon a bully, if you ran a brick against him in the election you sould vote for the brick because the brick will not make things worse but trump would do mad things.

(September 13, 2016 at 1:57 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Tump is the Silvio Berlisconi of the US he is a joke, a comic figure playing at being a politician and failing by an impressive margin. He is a buffon a bully, if you ran a brick against him in the election you sould vote for the brick because the brick will not make things worse but trump would do mad things.

Well, it is the US of A after all. Dodgy police officers, dodgy mayors, and dodgy presidential candidates and presidents. What else do we need to say? American people haven't been voting for honesty, they have been voting for those who are considered popular.

(September 13, 2016 at 12:44 pm)RobertE Wrote: I was referring to Clinton supporters.   The one who is doing the pandering is Clinton. She is contradicting everything that she originally stood for. Trump maybe bent as a 9-bob note, he may be a moron, but he tells it like it is. Even if it means upsetting people, the truth just needs to come out. I mean my parents always told me to tell the truth and from then on, I always did, even when I was in trouble with the police for burgling a house with some friends when I played truant from school. A couple of days later, someone was caught and it was only a matter of time before the police would come knocking and I would have had the beating of a lifetime. Guess what, I told my parents what I did and nothing happened. So yes, it does pay to be brutally and totally honest, even if it upsets people. I did the same at work when there was this black guy, 6ft 5inches tall, built like a brick shithouse. He thought someone told on him, so, I was brutally honest and told him that I respect his work, but as a person I told him that I didn't like him at all. From then on, he was ok. All Hilary is doing is waiting for the hypocrites to vote for her.

Um...you do realize that for nearly every point coming out of Trump's mouth you can find a video or a statement of him saying the opposite at some time in his life? You know he used to be a registered Democrat, right? It wasn't until he ran for president in 2012 as a Republican that he suddenly took on all these hardcore conservative viewpoints. And not only does he flip-flop on issues, he can't even maintain consistency on how he's going to deal with the issues. Just look at his stance on immigration and how his stance on amnesty changes from day to day and no one can nail down exactly what he plans to do. It's almost as if his message changes depending on his audience. Talk about pandering...

I mean, is Hillary dishonest? Sure, she has proven repeatedly that she has problems with the truth. But if you support Trump, you basically lose all credibility to question Hillary's honesty and essentially admit that you're fine with double standards.

(September 13, 2016 at 10:52 am)ReptilianPeon Wrote: Dirch, I have been one of Hilary's harshest critics and even I have to admit that she currently has no health problems that would exclude her from being president (this may change obviously). She lied about her health, sure, and that is what I was bemoaning. But here's the thing: All of these nonsensical right wing attacks make legitimate criticism of Hilary increasingly hard. People now think everything is a silly GOP attack and it's disheartening.

There's plenty of real scandals you can attack Hilary on, such as:

1. Putting a Clinton Foundation donor on an advisory board for tactical nuclear weapons.

2. All of the other pay to play revelations.

3. Not knowing what the different classification marks on e-mails meant.

4. Siphoning top secret government information to an unguarded homebrew server

5. Accepting money from criminals like al-Saud.

6. Selling weapons to South Sudan, a country known to use child soldiers.

7. Her support of a no-fly-zone over Syria, the same crazy thing people like Chris Christie proposed.

The list goes on and on. Please get informed on the real scandals the cable news hesitates to talk about. Coughing and falling alone, even lying, isn't enough to exclude. I think it could be fun to see Hilary elected simply so I can say to people "Ha! I told you so!"

Indeed, the list goes on and on. I can respect people who believe Clinton's policies would be better, even significantly better, than those of Trump. That is why we hold elections. Even if Trump was the incompetent vulgar buffoon his opponents say he is (which I don't believe) I don't see how anyone can support and enable someone that clearly thinks she is above the law. One of the founding principles of America is that we are a country of laws and not leaders. A vote for Clinton is to disregard that basic principle of democratic governance.

(September 13, 2016 at 12:26 pm)RobertE Wrote: At least he had the bollocks to come out with it instead of pandering to idiots who can't even speak the language.

You apparently don't know his constituency very well ...

(September 13, 2016 at 2:26 pm)Faith No More Wrote:

(September 13, 2016 at 12:44 pm)RobertE Wrote: I was referring to Clinton supporters.   The one who is doing the pandering is Clinton. She is contradicting everything that she originally stood for. Trump maybe bent as a 9-bob note, he may be a moron, but he tells it like it is. Even if it means upsetting people, the truth just needs to come out. I mean my parents always told me to tell the truth and from then on, I always did, even when I was in trouble with the police for burgling a house with some friends when I played truant from school. A couple of days later, someone was caught and it was only a matter of time before the police would come knocking and I would have had the beating of a lifetime. Guess what, I told my parents what I did and nothing happened. So yes, it does pay to be brutally and totally honest, even if it upsets people. I did the same at work when there was this black guy, 6ft 5inches tall, built like a brick shithouse. He thought someone told on him, so, I was brutally honest and told him that I respect his work, but as a person I told him that I didn't like him at all. From then on, he was ok. All Hilary is doing is waiting for the hypocrites to vote for her.

Um...you do realize that for nearly every point coming out of Trump's mouth you can find a video or a statement of him saying the opposite at some time in his life?  You know he used to be a registered Democrat, right?  It wasn't until he ran for president in 2012 as a Republican that he suddenly took on all these hardcore conservative viewpoints.  And not only does he flip-flop on issues, he can't even maintain consistency on how he's going to deal with the issues.  Just look at his stance on immigration and how his stance on amnesty changes from day to day and no one can nail down exactly what he plans to do.  It's almost as if his message changes depending on his audience.  Talk about pandering...

I mean, is Hillary dishonest?  Sure, she has proven repeatedly that she has problems with the truth.  But if you support Trump, you basically lose all credibility to question Hillary's honesty and essentially admit that you're fine with double standards.

I have my own problems here, that is why I don't vote. I mean, a vote for Sarkozy is a vote for zero-tolerance. A vote for François Hollande is a vote for incomptence. I mean, when George Bush led Tony Blair astray like a lost dog, I see the same thing with Hollande. It was simply because the people who voted for Hollande were sheep.