And spousal rape is obviously just as bad, and so is intoxicated date rape, things like those aren't always told.
So At that point saying no will do more help than a rapist dragging you away.

(September 14, 2016 at 3:37 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:

(September 14, 2016 at 5:40 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: No, dumbass - many men DON'T know that. Many people, inspired - for example - by their religion, their misogynistic culture, or pathological upbringing often don't consider rape to be rape.

When one is thinking with their genitals - it's easy to overlook the lack of consent from sexual partner/victim. That's why dumb people need to be reminded, that rape doesn't just mean dragging some screaming woman into a dark alley. There's spousal rape (favorite among religious f*ckwits, who are told since childhood, that the body of the spouse belongs to them, therefore they don't have to worry about consent), there are frat-boys and other sick f*cks abusing sex-workers (because in the mind of many idiots, a prostitute can not refuse consent), there's date-rape, because apparently it's NOT clear, that a heavily intoxicated person is not necessarily aware of what they're doing. And so on...

There are many, many losers trying to get laid all over the world. Good number of them would commit morally questionable acts in order to achieve that goal, especially if society doesn't keep reminding them, what is and what isn't acceptable. Which is why - yes, we do need to keep educating people (especially dumb young guys, looking to get their d*ck wet) about sexual abuse.

Again - you have nothing to add to this discussion. You have no idea what you're talking about and nobody asked you about your opinion in the first place. Drop it.

So you think people haven't been told to not rrape people?
Frats,  religious freaks etc, their minds aren't gonna change by just saying stop.
And I'm talking about America.
Other places should Enforce the law.

Do I care I people ask me. If I don't speak unless I'm never told to, how the fuck am I gonna contribute my opinion. 

Rape is bad,
Rapists think it's okay and won't change their thoughts, 
Just telling them no won't always help,
It's up to the law to stop it.
Don't blame it on men.
It's not the women's fault either.

YYou might as well ask how it feels to be the same gender as hitler, jesus, nuhammad, osama, etc.

Again...this made zero sense. What??

(September 14, 2016 at 3:40 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: And spousal rape is obviously just as bad, and so is intoxicated date rape, things like those aren't always told.
So At that point saying no will do more help than a rapist dragging you away.

Again....what?

ScienceAF, what is the point you are trying to make??

(September 13, 2016 at 10:04 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:

(September 13, 2016 at 6:24 pm)Jesster Wrote: Let's just let everyone do what they want. It's not we can change their minds. I'm sure nothing bad will ever come from that ideology. We can even shut the prisons down and save a lot of money! Yay anarchy!

Did say I want rape?
We can't change everyone's minds. Do you think me telling every man "Hey! Stop raping our children!" Is gonna do shit. 
When I tell people "Hey! Stop doing drugs!" Do you think everyone will care?

NNot every person can be convinced.

There's a saying that is used in my profession. "Perfect is the enemy of good enough." In other words, no shit Sherlock, not every person can be convinced, but that isn't a sound reason to not educate those that can.

I think most rapists probably have some kind of mental defect. I doubt raising them up to know raping is wrong will change a lot for them. So what? We should anyway. Because raping is wrong. The way we raise kids, the things we tell them, the stuff we teach them it makes a huge impact. It may never end rape but the more we educate people the better we as a society deal with rape as a social problem. If you can't see that you're probably too young to fully grasp how societies work.

(September 14, 2016 at 5:32 pm)Losty Wrote: I think most rapists probably have some kind of mental defect. I doubt raising them up to know raping is wrong will change a lot for them. So what? We should anyway. Because raping is wrong. The way we raise kids, the things we tell them, the stuff we teach them it makes a huge impact. It may never end rape but the more we educate people the better we as a society deal with rape as a social problem. If you can't see that you're probably too young to fully grasp how societies work.

On top of just educating people to not rape others, education also gets other people to recognize the signs so they can help stop it before it happens. Otherwise it's just up to the victim to defend themselves. We live in a collective society, so let's use that to our advantage.

(September 14, 2016 at 5:37 pm)Jesster Wrote:

(September 14, 2016 at 5:32 pm)Losty Wrote: I think most rapists probably have some kind of mental defect. I doubt raising them up to know raping is wrong will change a lot for them. So what? We should anyway. Because raping is wrong. The way we raise kids, the things we tell them, the stuff we teach them it makes a huge impact. It may never end rape but the more we educate people the better we as a society deal with rape as a social problem. If you can't see that you're probably too young to fully grasp how societies work.

On top of just educating people to not rape others, education also gets other people to recognize the signs so they can help stop it before it happens. Otherwise it's just up to the victim to defend themselves. We live in a collective society, so let's use that to our advantage.

We ought to be educated our fucking judges as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/01...51116.html

(September 14, 2016 at 5:12 pm)Losty Wrote:

(September 14, 2016 at 3:37 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: So you think people haven't been told to not rrape people?
Frats,  religious freaks etc, their minds aren't gonna change by just saying stop.
And I'm talking about America.
Other places should Enforce the law.

Do I care I people ask me. If I don't speak unless I'm never told to, how the fuck am I gonna contribute my opinion. 

Rape is bad,
Rapists think it's okay and won't change their thoughts, 
Just telling them no won't always help,
It's up to the law to stop it.
Don't blame it on men.
It's not the women's fault either.

YYou might as well ask how it feels to be the same gender as hitler, jesus, nuhammad, osama, etc.

Again...this made zero sense. What??

My point was...

Quote:Rape is bad,
Rapists think it's okay and won't change their thoughts, 
Just telling them no won't always help,
It's up to the law to stop it.
Don't blame it on men.
It's not the women's fault either.

(September 14, 2016 at 5:23 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(September 13, 2016 at 10:04 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: Did say I want rape?
We can't change everyone's minds. Do you think me telling every man "Hey! Stop raping our children!" Is gonna do shit. 
When I tell people "Hey! Stop doing drugs!" Do you think everyone will care?

NNot every person can be convinced.

There's a saying that is used in my profession.  "Perfect is the enemy of good enough."  In other words, no shit Sherlock, not every person can be convinced, but that isn't a sound reason to not educate those that can.

Well duh, we should educate everyone and we do, but people who rape won't listen mostly.

I don't know how someone can grow up normally in the u.s and not know rape is bad.
They'd rape but not care.

But idk what I did wrong? 
Said*

(September 14, 2016 at 6:50 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:

(September 14, 2016 at 5:12 pm)Losty Wrote: Again...this made zero sense. What??

My point was...

Quote:Rape is bad,
Rapists think it's okay and won't change their thoughts, 
Just telling them no won't always help,
It's up to the law to stop it.
Don't blame it on men.
It's not the women's fault either.

And yet you started out by saying "men already know" to not rape. Apparently not. Or do you think someone here is blaming all men? Stop trying to play the victim. You won't get any sympathy when you set up an argument against yourself that nobody else here is using against you. That's called a straw man argument and I won't play into it.