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RE: If Life is Meaningless Anyway, then What's Wrong with Religion?
September 24, 2016 at 1:38 am
(September 24, 2016 at 1:29 am)Maelstrom Wrote: (September 24, 2016 at 1:27 am)Arkilogue Wrote: I was under the impression that in the Abrahamic religions what you did in this life determined your fate in the next....?
Determining our lives by what one of thousands of religions suggests is rather fucking retarded.
And grass is green.
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RE: If Life is Meaningless Anyway, then What's Wrong with Religion?
September 24, 2016 at 1:38 am
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(September 24, 2016 at 1:29 am)Rhythm Wrote: Not in the christian tradition, Ark. You can't get to heaven through works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3VTngm1F0
But can you get to hell through them?
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RE: If Life is Meaningless Anyway, then What's Wrong with Religion?
September 24, 2016 at 1:38 am
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(September 24, 2016 at 1:38 am)Arkilogue Wrote: And grass is green.
Depends on the lawn. Some grass is brown.
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RE: If Life is Meaningless Anyway, then What's Wrong with Religion?
September 24, 2016 at 1:42 am
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(September 24, 2016 at 1:38 am)Arkilogue Wrote: (September 24, 2016 at 1:29 am)Rhythm Wrote: Not in the christian tradition, Ark. You can't get to heaven through works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3VTngm1F0
But can you get to hell through them?
Again, no. If you're saved (or born again)...you're saved. You're expected to sin, as a fallen creature. Heaven is full of sinners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFOzayDpWoI
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RE: If Life is Meaningless Anyway, then What's Wrong with Religion?
September 24, 2016 at 1:43 am
(September 24, 2016 at 1:38 am)Maelstrom Wrote: (September 24, 2016 at 1:38 am)Arkilogue Wrote: And grass is green.
Depends on the lawn. Some grass is brown.
And some grass are coconut trees, you know what I meant.
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RE: If Life is Meaningless Anyway, then What's Wrong with Religion?
September 24, 2016 at 1:45 am
(September 24, 2016 at 1:43 am)Arkilogue Wrote: And some grass are coconut trees, you know what I meant.
Considering that your counter is illogical, no.
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RE: If Life is Meaningless Anyway, then What's Wrong with Religion?
September 24, 2016 at 1:47 am
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(September 24, 2016 at 1:42 am)Rhythm Wrote: (September 24, 2016 at 1:38 am)Arkilogue Wrote: But can you get to hell through them?
Again, no. If you're saved (or born again)...you're saved. You're expected to sin, as a fallen creature. Heaven is full of sinners.
Is being born again a voluntary act?
I could have sworn Jesus said something about holding onto your crown....here it is, Rev 3:11 I am coming soon. Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
That crown is the stephanon, the victory over death, the crown of eternal life.
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RE: If Life is Meaningless Anyway, then What's Wrong with Religion?
September 24, 2016 at 1:48 am
(September 24, 2016 at 1:45 am)Maelstrom Wrote: (September 24, 2016 at 1:43 am)Arkilogue Wrote: And some grass are coconut trees, you know what I meant.
Considering that your counter is illogical, no.
Next time I'll write "obviously"
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RE: If Life is Meaningless Anyway, then What's Wrong with Religion?
September 24, 2016 at 1:50 am
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(September 24, 2016 at 1:47 am)Arkilogue Wrote: (September 24, 2016 at 1:42 am)Rhythm Wrote: Again, no. If you're saved (or born again)...you're saved. You're expected to sin, as a fallen creature. Heaven is full of sinners.
Is being born again a voluntary act? Depends on who you ask, but it won't mean much in context, as all the volition in the world isn't what saves you. You are saved by grace.
Quote:I could have sworn Jesus said something about holding onto your crown....here it is, Rev 3:11 I am coming soon. Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
That crown is the stephanon, the victory over death, the crown of eternal life.
Is it, or have you misread revelations in accordance with your particular pattern seeking impulse? Are you sure that the rome hating author wasn't entreating the reader to persist and maintain in their own cultural traditions which, as the author saw it, were crumbling?
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RE: If Life is Meaningless Anyway, then What's Wrong with Religion?
September 24, 2016 at 1:55 am
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(September 24, 2016 at 1:50 am)Rhythm Wrote: (September 24, 2016 at 1:47 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Is being born again a voluntary act? Depends on who you ask, but it won't mean much in context, as all the volition in the world isn't what saves you. You are saved by grace.
Quote:I could have sworn Jesus said something about holding onto your crown....here it is, Rev 3:11 I am coming soon. Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
That crown is the stephanon, the victory over death, the crown of eternal life.
Is it, or have you misread revelations in accordance with your particular pattern seeking impulse?
We might be saved by grace but we are rewarded or chastised according to our deeds. Rom 2:6 God “will repay each one according to his deeds.” 7 To those who by perseverance in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, He will give eternal life.…8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow wickedness, there will be wrath and anger.…
There is no "s" in Revelation. Not sure what you think I misread.
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