(October 9, 2016 at 11:08 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(October 9, 2016 at 11:02 am)Aegon Wrote: Within the first week he'd call Angela Merkel a "fat cow"

Really?

Come on Aegon, I think we could all say something worse about Merkel.

None of us are President of the United States, are we?

(October 9, 2016 at 11:09 am)Aegon Wrote: None of us are President of the United States, are we?

No, but you get the point.

Here's hoping he says something to Merkel.  

(October 8, 2016 at 5:05 pm)JuliaL Wrote: I understand and support a movement to get Trump off the ticket via death or resignation (the only two choices, it seems.)

Suppose he resigns under heavy pressure, against his strongly narcissistic personality and Pence becomes the ticket lead.

What next?
Somebody reassure me that Pence won't win against a demonized Clinton.
Pence who is:
Anti-choice
Pro death penalty
Anti UN
Pro secret police
Anti weed
Pro gun
Anti education standards
Pro fossil fuel
Anti marriage equality



Pence policy positions

You're all right. Even if they managed to remainder Trump, he'd still be on the ticket in 36 states, as it is past the deadline for candidate declarations. Plus all the ads slots are bought, all the ads are made, all the literature sent out, all the local orgs and (what little of) the GOTV campaigns prepped. It'd be a total clusterfuck if the RNC tried to pull Trump now, especially seeing as he's adamant he won't go.

(October 8, 2016 at 5:26 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: As an outside observer, as it were, looking at hetero mores and such, that certain women over the age of 18 'enjoy' being groped in their 'pussy' regions by the likes of alpha males such as Trumple, what am I to think about this brouhaha in regards therefore, because in my own peer group where such goings on have either been committed by myself, or I myself have willingly encouraged their commitment on my person ??

In other words, your vorlon has been as much of a pig as Trumple, and as much as a 'bimbo' (for lack of better terminology) as whomever he was apparently referring to.


And I have certainly engaged in repeated coarse descriptives and objectifyings of any number of hot menz.  Even at AF in other threads.

I'd be fairly right in saying, no matter how weird your sexual leanings are (not talking about the gay here, something held by c11% of the population isn't weird), they do involve you acting them out with other consenting adults who like, or at the very least tolerate it for a quid pro quo, that kind of sexual shennanigans.

On the other hand you've got Trump, who pretty much said that he did the gropings on women who didn't want to be groped and did not consent to being groped.

Big difference there.

(October 9, 2016 at 11:02 am)Aegon Wrote: People seem to forget that the POTUS is not just the chief legislator. Personally, I believe the president's most important role in 2016 is that of the chief diplomat. Can you imagine Trump representing the U.S. on the international scale? Within the first week he'd call Angela Merkel a "fat cow" and mispronounce Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud's name claiming, "Well those people, those people, they have hard names to pronounce."

So the idea that the race doesn't matter because it'll be the same shit one way or the other is just wrong.

Agreed - for the reason you gave and at least a dozen others.

(October 9, 2016 at 11:02 am)Aegon Wrote: People seem to forget that the POTUS is not just the chief legislator. Personally, I believe the president's most important role in 2016 is that of the chief diplomat.

POTUS is not a legislator at all ...I think the position has more important functions that chief diplomat as well, such as establishing policy guidelines and directions, both in the domestic sphere and the international.

You're right that diplomacy is a big part of the job, I just disagree that it is the prime aspect of it, this or any other year, really.

(October 8, 2016 at 5:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(October 8, 2016 at 5:12 pm)JuliaL Wrote: So I understand, but if the ticket is Trump/Pence and Trump isn't there, what happens in those states?

But Trump is there.  He is named as the candidate for President and Pence is the candidate for Vice President.  If he quits, is removed, or is killed it doesn't change the ballot in those states and, I'm pretty sure most states have already prepared their ballots as most states have some form of early voting.

A vote for the ticket of Trump/Pence elects Trump.  The GOP does not dictate to the states how they run elections.

Here, as an example, is a sample of the Arizona ballot.  We expect them in the mail next week.  There is no way they can be pulled back and redone at this point.

http://www.lakepowelllife.com/wp-content...-NP-FB.pdf

All the elections on one ballot like that? That's an absolute mess altogether. Over here we get a separate ballot for each election, so for the last local and european elections in 2014 we got a ballot for voting on MEPs, and a separate ballot for voting on councillors.

(October 9, 2016 at 12:28 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(October 9, 2016 at 11:02 am)Aegon Wrote: People seem to forget that the POTUS is not just the chief legislator. Personally, I believe the president's most important role in 2016 is that of the chief diplomat.

POTUS is not a legislator at all ...I think the position has more important functions that chief diplomat as well, such as establishing policy guidelines and directions, both in the domestic sphere and the international.

You're right that diplomacy is a big part of the job, I just disagree that it is the prime aspect of it, this or any other year, really.

Establishing policy guidelines is the reason he has the title of "chief legislator."

(October 9, 2016 at 11:11 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(October 9, 2016 at 11:09 am)Aegon Wrote: None of us are President of the United States, are we?

No, but you get the point.

Here's hoping he says something to Merkel.  

"I wanna grab your pussy?"

Actually come to think of it, he's not the asking-permission type.

(October 9, 2016 at 12:36 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(October 9, 2016 at 12:28 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: POTUS is not a legislator at all ...I think the position has more important functions that chief diplomat as well, such as establishing policy guidelines and directions, both in the domestic sphere and the international.

You're right that diplomacy is a big part of the job, I just disagree that it is the prime aspect of it, this or any other year, really.

Establishing policy guidelines is the reason he has the title of "chief legislator."

... except, he doesn't have that title, and policy guidelines do not have the force of law. Feel free to look it up.