(October 11, 2016 at 4:58 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(October 11, 2016 at 4:31 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: It's the troll thing.

She has never once genuinely attempted to justify any of these things she's saying. She just tries to incite a reaction (the 4chan roots shining through), and when she does, she plays the victim like "Hey... I am only voicing my opinion ovah heah."

And if you call her out, she passive aggressively deletes your rep and rage quits for a couple of days.

If you ask me, that's the textbook definition of a troll.

I've deleted a rep two users in the past, although it hasn't happened lately and I gave them back there's no point denying it but it wasn't you, sounds like you're trying to play the victim here. That time I took a short break? It wasn't ragequitting. I am not trolling. I just have controversial views that make everyone butthurt.

I'm done here.

Heh, speaking for myself, I ignore your shiposting around. Some people get upset of your, ahem, predictable behaviour for your age. I was 18 once. The forum didn't exist at the time so... and David Bowie was still alive.

Can we trade? I get to be 18 yo and with my experience and you get to be a 36 old man with a baby daughter, bills to pay and no time to do anything.

Deal?

(October 11, 2016 at 4:31 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: It's the troll thing.

She has never once genuinely attempted to justify any of these things she's saying. She just tries to incite a reaction (the 4chan roots shining through), and when she does, she plays the victim like "Hey... I am only voicing my opinion ovah heah."

And if you call her out, she passive aggressively deletes your rep and rage quits for a couple of days.

If you ask me, that's the textbook definition of a troll.

Which is precisely why I don't understand why nothing's been done. But that's not my department, so....

What have I walked in on.

(October 11, 2016 at 7:59 am)Alex K Wrote:

(October 11, 2016 at 1:04 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Under a Clinton presidency, yes.

Trump? No, you'll be fine.

Sometimes I really wonder whether we inhabit the same  universe...

Nah, I'm going with trolling, too

Definitely trolling. That's been clear to me since several weeks ago when I made some response to one of her Trump shit posts, and she responded by saying, in effect, that she liked riling up "assholes like" me. 

*shrug*

If I cared less what a kid in the UK thinks about the U.S. election, I'd be a corpse.

(October 11, 2016 at 4:58 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(October 11, 2016 at 4:31 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: It's the troll thing.

She has never once genuinely attempted to justify any of these things she's saying. She just tries to incite a reaction (the 4chan roots shining through), and when she does, she plays the victim like "Hey... I am only voicing my opinion ovah heah."

And if you call her out, she passive aggressively deletes your rep and rage quits for a couple of days.

If you ask me, that's the textbook definition of a troll.

I've deleted a rep two users in the past, although it hasn't happened lately and I gave them back there's no point denying it but it wasn't you, sounds like you're trying to play the victim here.

You do realize that such things are logged right? I can see exactly how many times you've deleted reps after some tiff on here. I could care less about reps, but I do notice trends. In fact the only reason that I know about it is when I would be doing my mod duties and going past the moderation log I would see that you had deleted a couple of reps that day.

(October 11, 2016 at 4:58 am)Bella Morte Wrote: That time I took a short break? It wasn't ragequitting. I am not trolling. I just have controversial views that make everyone butthurt.

I'm done here.

Except you know that your views are controversial, and yet you insist on popping one liners and running away when challenged. You, again, have yet to offer any justification as to why, as an LGBT individual, you would side with the party who would tell you transgender people are making shit up, that gays and lesbians don't deserve equal rights, that women do not have the rights to make their own reproductive choices, that religious liberty really means Christian privelege, that the rich deserve the biggest tax breaks, that the profit motives in healthcare are a good thing, that making minorities jump through extra hoops in order to exercise their franchise is a good thing, and that racism, xenophobia, and white nationalism are good things.

Furthermore, your adoration of this particular man is especially questionable. He literally cheats regular people out of their hard earned money, he uses the court system to bleed anyone who might look to recoup the money he stiffs them, his "University" scammed hundreds of people out of tens of thousands of dollars, many of them military veterans. He liiterally was bragging about sexually assaulting women, which is right in line with his previous comments and harrassment of women. He incites violence at his rallies. He literally threatened to jail his political opponent like an African despot. He has been sued by the Justice Department not once but twice for racially discriminating in his housing developments. He took nearly a $1B loss in the '90s and therefore likely has paid no taxes for nearly twenty years---he, who uses the court system like a personal tool and who uses more civil infrastructure than 100 other Americans combined, etc etc etc.

So yeah, you are trolling. You know your views are controversial and will piss people off, especially when combined with your refusal to engage about it and your tendency to cut bait and run when confronted.

(October 11, 2016 at 8:59 am)Nymphadora Wrote:

(October 11, 2016 at 4:31 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: It's the troll thing.

She has never once genuinely attempted to justify any of these things she's saying. She just tries to incite a reaction (the 4chan roots shining through), and when she does, she plays the victim like "Hey... I am only voicing my opinion ovah heah."

And if you call her out, she passive aggressively deletes your rep and rage quits for a couple of days.

If you ask me, that's the textbook definition of a troll.

Which is precisely why I don't understand why nothing's been done. But that's not my department, so....

Report instances of trolling and we'll vote on it. I cannot by myself do anything, and we cannot action on anything without a report.

Even when it's blaringly obvious that there is trolling going on to the extent that it's even called out by a mod or two?

I have a rep from who-shall-not-be-named. Reminds me old times playing whack-a-mole.

It might sound like trolling, but I see people like this IRL every day. A friend of mine's significant other has a huge number of LGBT friends and has had to take advantage of our social welfare programs (not something I mind at all), yet loves the fuck out of Trump and denounces social welfare programs. I have an aunt who is gay all the way, dirt broke and disabled. She loves Donald Trump. These people aren't kidding. They actually think his hate speech is just tough guy rhetoric and that he is some figurative messiah come to save America. Mind you, none of them can present a good argument for it, either.

My point is, while I'll never take trolling off the table, I don't think Bella's beliefs are enough to say he or she is trolling, but then again, I have no idea what's going on around here lately.

(October 11, 2016 at 9:48 am)Nymphadora Wrote: Even when it's blaringly obvious that there is trolling going on to the extent that it's even called out by a mod or two?

It may seem blaringly obvious to you, but that doesn't mean the staff will think it's serious enough to take action against a member in good standing.

We don't want to stifle controversial opinions as staff. Again, if you feel like there's a good example of a pattern of trolling, please report it.