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RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
February 6, 2017 at 11:48 am
(February 6, 2017 at 11:21 am)Violet Wrote: Donald Trump has legitimate flaws... but the boy cried wolf more than one too many times this election cycle. The boy has damaged his reputation so bad, that people begin to instinctively defend Trump when the boy speaks.
Not going to be pretty if Trump actually does something disturbing... because the media has been absolutely fixated on twisting all of the good things he's done to be terrible: when he does something genuinely terrible, it'll be approximated with the rest of the exaggerations, misconstructions, and outright fabrications.
I really can't say anything good about Castro, though. How many people do you have to kill and rape to get a bad rap by the media these days... Bill Clinton is the Golden Boy of Feminism and Donald Trump is the worstest of the worst (word) rapist the world has every seen.
I've spent months watching terrible allegations toward Trump suddenly vanish when they were no longer politically expedient... I've seen the media and political establishment flip their positions over and over and over all contrarian like...
I don't think the mainstream media can be trusted or respected in Current Year.... new blood, absolute restructures... a media not colluding with political figures... It might be too late for the media: they're doubling down, not restructuring. Luckily, we can hear directly from our president, and don't need legacy media in its current form to parse for us what trump 'really means!', because we can read what he really means all on our own.
People here tried to humanize the guy i was even asked about Castro myself like how do i feel the honest answer here is from me.
That guy killed people sure he may have done good but end the end he became a tyrant and his people suffered because of him.
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RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
February 6, 2017 at 11:48 am
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Quote:Yeah... And you still can't see that he's a raging lunatic, an irredeemable moron, a pathological liar and an unapologetic c*nt? Well, then - all the media in the world can't help you... The man has been damning himself with his own words for decades now. The media only gave him a platform.
Right. He's petty, but not any of those other four things in any particular way moreso than the average buffalo.
Hey, I have The_Donald for media, and a couple of Nimble Aligators who lurk deep in the comments to provide me with some grounding on every subject big enough for me to see it. Just about everywhere else has an alternative viewpoint, and nobody to contest it. Serves me well enough though.
The man's a billionaire. I'll be damned if I could damn myself into billions and billions of dollars 
Quote:Of course media's going to be against the game show host, who became president through populism. That's because most journalists had to go to school. And simple people prefer to listen to Trump, because he appeals to their fear using vocabulary of a 6-year-old stroke victim...
Huh. Yet... the cocksuckin that they gave to bush first term and both of obama's terms... I mean, do you know how the patriot act happened, and all of the civil liberties we've lost over the last couple of decades? I'm going to go with, 'no, contrarianism and propagandization are just in vogue'.
I'm not particularly fearful, and Trump was a student at Wharton who graduated with a business degree.
I like they way he talks, though... it is pretty appealing and straightforward  Pedantic learned people have a tendency to show off their intelligence... it's something that tends to give way a bit when you've lived a life of work that you can actually show off and be proud of.
(February 6, 2017 at 11:44 am)mh.brewer Wrote: It's Fake News!
There. It's over. My anxiety level is waning. Screwing with my OCD is not funny.
So much is, these days 
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RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
February 6, 2017 at 11:51 am
(February 6, 2017 at 11:34 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (February 6, 2017 at 11:21 am)Violet Wrote: [...] Luckily, we can hear directly from our president, and don't need legacy media in its current form to parse for us what trump 'really means!', because we can read what he really means all on our own.
Yeah... And you still can't see that he's a raging lunatic, an irredeemable moron, a pathological liar and an unapologetic c*nt? Well, then - all the media in the world can't help you... The man has been damning himself with his own words for decades now. The media only gave him a platform.
Of course media's going to be against the game show host, who became president through populism. That's because most journalists had to go to school. And simple people prefer to listen to Trump, because he appeals to their fear using vocabulary of a 6-year-old stroke victim...
The guy did some of the stuff he promised unlike that one guy named Obama because in his first week in office he did say what he was going to do.
But i agree with you and at the same time Hillary is just as bad of a liar as Trump is but ill give Trump some credit he did say he would do deregulation and oh boy did he do
what he said he would do. At this point it's pointless to start having arguments over politics we should be happy that Trumps family might steer him in the right direction.
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RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
February 6, 2017 at 11:53 am
(February 6, 2017 at 11:48 am)Violet Wrote:
(February 6, 2017 at 11:44 am)mh.brewer Wrote: It's Fake News!
There. It's over. My anxiety level is waning. Screwing with my OCD is not funny.
So much is, these days
Who are you? I heard Alice? Bees and Buff make me think late 60's and 70's.
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RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
February 6, 2017 at 11:53 am
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(February 6, 2017 at 11:48 am)dyresand Wrote: People here tried to humanize the guy i was even asked about Castro myself like how do i feel the honest answer here is from me. That guy killed people sure he may have done good but end the end he became a tyrant and his people suffered because of him.
That isn't to say that tyrants are always the worst thing... Assad, for instance, yes he did terrible things... but the things he did also stopped fanatical religious groups from springing up, and he is absolutely necessary to see peace in Syria (like when he ruled already) inside this decade. Or the incredibly well respected Gadafi, seeking to unite Africa and bring peace/wealth in with it...
Castro didn't have so much going for him.
(February 6, 2017 at 11:53 am)mh.brewer Wrote: (February 6, 2017 at 11:48 am)Violet Wrote:
So much is, these days
Who are you? I heard Alice? Bees and Buff make me think late 60's and 70's.
They make me think of my fiance and flying 
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RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
February 6, 2017 at 12:00 pm
(February 6, 2017 at 11:53 am)Violet Wrote: (February 6, 2017 at 11:48 am)dyresand Wrote: People here tried to humanize the guy i was even asked about Castro myself like how do i feel the honest answer here is from me. That guy killed people sure he may have done good but end the end he became a tyrant and his people suffered because of him.
That isn't to say that tyrants are always the worst thing... Assad, for instance, yes he did terrible things... but the things he did also stopped fanatical religious groups from springing up, and he is absolutely necessary to see peace in Syria (like when he ruled already) inside this decade. Or the incredibly well respected Gadafi, seeking to unite Africa and bring peace/wealth in with it...
Castro didn't have so much going for him.
(February 6, 2017 at 11:53 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Who are you? I heard Alice? Bees and Buff make me think late 60's and 70's.
They make me think of my fiance and flying
I'm like Alice, if Alice was full of life, and had her head in the clouds, and was happy
i agree castro just did things to make America hate him pretty much. The war in Syria is just backed by a false narrative when he is trying to keep ISIS from overthrowing him
and there we are the US helping one of our enemies to remove Assad becasue "humanitarian reasons" last time i checked we love Saudi Arabia so "humanitarian reasons" is a lie.
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RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
February 6, 2017 at 12:03 pm
(February 6, 2017 at 12:00 pm)dyresand Wrote: (February 6, 2017 at 11:53 am)Violet Wrote: That isn't to say that tyrants are always the worst thing... Assad, for instance, yes he did terrible things... but the things he did also stopped fanatical religious groups from springing up, and he is absolutely necessary to see peace in Syria (like when he ruled already) inside this decade. Or the incredibly well respected Gadafi, seeking to unite Africa and bring peace/wealth in with it...
Castro didn't have so much going for him.
They make me think of my fiance and flying
I'm like Alice, if Alice was full of life, and had her head in the clouds, and was happy
i agree castro just did things to make America hate him pretty much. The war in Syria is just backed by a false narrative when he is trying to keep ISIS from overthrowing him
and there we are the US helping one of our enemies to remove Assad becasue "humanitarian reasons" last time i checked we love Saudi Arabia so "humanitarian reasons" is a lie.
What does this have to do with Alice, bees or buff?
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RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
February 6, 2017 at 12:17 pm
(February 6, 2017 at 12:03 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (February 6, 2017 at 12:00 pm)dyresand Wrote: i agree castro just did things to make America hate him pretty much. The war in Syria is just backed by a false narrative when he is trying to keep ISIS from overthrowing him
and there we are the US helping one of our enemies to remove Assad becasue "humanitarian reasons" last time i checked we love Saudi Arabia so "humanitarian reasons" is a lie.
What does this have to do with Alice, bees or buff?
Nothing at all i was just replying with a opinion
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RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
February 6, 2017 at 2:57 pm
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(February 6, 2017 at 11:21 am)Violet Wrote: Quote:Donald Trump has legitimate flaws... but the boy cried wolf more than one too many times this election cycle. The boy has damaged his reputation so bad, that people begin to instinctively defend Trump when the boy speaks.
Trumps is nothing but flaws .And no the media has for the most part been spot on not the boy who cries wolf. The people who defend trump were already inclined to do so even before the media said anything .all the flak trump has earned with his words and his actions because we all have eyes and ears it's just his supporters close them.
Quote:Not going to be pretty if Trump actually does something disturbing... because the media has been absolutely fixated on twisting all of the good things he's done to be terrible: when he does something genuinely terrible, it'll be approximated with the rest of the exaggerations, misconstructions, and outright fabrications.
Nope trumps done no good. They have not twisted a thing. The things he done are just as awful as reported . And to those who already support him the worst he could do will be as nothing .
Quote:I really can't say anything good about Castro, though. How many people do you have to kill and rape to get a bad rap by the media these days... Bill Clinton is the Golden Boy of Feminism and Donald Trump is the worstest of the worst (word) rapist the world has every seen.
Neither can I but I also can't say anything good about Putin but Trump did .And no ones calling Clinton the golden boy of feminism (a decade of investigation kills the rape charges against him). But he is no where near as bad a Trump. Who doesn't even try to hide his attitude toward women and yes I could believe he really is that terrible .
Quote:I've spent months watching terrible allegations toward Trump suddenly vanish when they were no longer politically expedient... I've seen the media and political establishment flip their positions over and over and over all contrarian like...
Such as . The allegation are not political there still very much there .But you can't focus on one because the moment you do he's already done 6 other terrible, stupid , things . And nope there message seems clear and consistent don't know what news your watching .
Quote:I don't think the mainstream media can be trusted or respected in Current Year.... new blood, absolute restructures... a media not colluding with political figures... It might be too late for the media: they're doubling down, not restructuring. Luckily, we can hear directly from our president, and don't need legacy media in its current form to parse for us what trump 'really means!', because we can read what he really means all on our own.
Well I still mostly trust it .The problem is not the media it's there subject (trump). Trump supporters simply don't like it because it tarnishes there hero by making them see who he really is .As for Trumps tweet echo chamber filled with his sycophants were he spins his lies. twists his mistakes . and throws his temper tantrums. And makes an ignorant ass of himself. If that's the direction the should go then maybe it should not exist . But your free to enjoy being manipulated when he covers his ass and bleat with all the other sheep "make America great" and fear Goldstein .
Are you freaking kidding Assad is one of the reasons ISIS is in Syria .And no I could praise Castro but I won't
Quote:Right. He's petty, but not any of those other four things in any particular way moreso than the average buffalo.
Hey, I have The_Donald for media, and a couple of Nimble Aligators who lurk deep in the comments to provide me with some grounding on every subject big enough for me to see it. Just about everywhere else has an alternative viewpoint, and nobody to contest it. Serves me well enough though.
The man's a billionaire. I'll be damned if I could damn myself into billions and billions of dollars
Being rich doesn't mean shit
Quote:Huh. Yet... the cocksuckin that they gave to bush first term and both of obama's terms... I mean, do you know how the patriot act happened, and all of the civil liberties we've lost over the last couple of decades? I'm going to go with, 'no, contrarianism and propagandization are just in vogue'.
I'm not particularly fearful, and Trump was a student at Wharton who graduated with a business degree.
I like they way he talks, though... it is pretty appealing and straightforward Pedantic learned people have a tendency to show off their intelligence... it's something that tends to give way a bit when you've lived a life of work that you can actually show off and be proud of.
1. Well clearly Wharton has lowered there standards or some monkey business went on because if that's what a graduate from there looks like them.....
2. Talking straight forward is only a merit when the things you say aren't mind numbingly stupid and wrong
3. Trump has not worked. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth .And got rich by screwing people over and hypocrisy . Hell he failed at running a casino losing a billion dollars .And launching countless failed ventures if I were him I would ask for my money back for that degree .If that's something Trump takes pride in then that says something about him. If that's something his followers admire then that says something about them.
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RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
February 6, 2017 at 5:37 pm
Orochi Wrote:Are you freaking kidding Assad is one of the reasons ISIS is in Syria .And no I could praise Castro but I won't
To think that you genuinely believe that. Expand your news portfolio
Have you any evidence that Assad somehow invited ISIS in or something?
Orochi Wrote:Being rich doesn't mean shit
Wouldn't mind giving me all of your money then, no?  Means something to me, especially when it's earned... but shit, I could use some farmstead money
Quote:1. Well clearly Wharton has lowered there standards or some monkey business went on because if that's what a graduate from there looks like them.....
2. Talking straight forward is only a merit when the things you say aren't mind numbingly stupid and wrong
3. Trump has not worked. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth .And got rich by screwing people over and hypocrisy . Hell he failed at running a casino losing a billion dollars .And launching countless failed ventures if I were him I would ask for my money back for that degree .If that's something Trump takes pride in then that says something about him. If that's something his followers admire then that says something about them.
... Billionaire... hundreds of businesses....? Yeah, if I were Wharton, I'd have him on my flier for what my college could do for you. Lotta money to be made.
Talk enough, and you'll say something stupid. Man sleeps like 4-5 hours a day, he's a doer. Has a magic wand too, it's called a telephone He's a master of magical muttering.
Are you crazy? XD Do you know his origin? His father...? Yeah, he got a head start, but he's absolutely worked for most of what he's accomplished... hell of a work ethic, even. Just because someone sits in the executive position doesn't mean that they aren't working. Have you ever started a business, Ol' Roachy? Ain't tea and cakes... you can look at lottery winners if you want to see what happens when a person with no work ethic or talent accomplishes with a(n often much greater) head start... the crashing and burning more than speaks for itself. Man's done some wonders for his fortunes.
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