Quote:Tell that to the people who are being pulled out of their cars. Going after peaceful protesters and running them over is one thing, and should be prosecuted by the law. But if an out of control mob of riotous bastards surround MY truck with their clubs and Molotov cocktails, move out of the way. I'm not sticking around.

Then you'd be prosecuted for not exercising 'due care' under the law being considered.

And I see you're still having trouble differentiating 'protest' from 'riot'.

Boru

(February 12, 2017 at 8:06 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: you seem like a strong advocate of the stand-your-ground law.

Blocking traffic doesn't make it ok for people to get run over. Feeling intimidated by a crowd  also isn't a good enough reason to run over people. One can always open up a map and pick another route, and even then, if blocking traffic is a headache, there are law agents to arrest or disperse the crowd, there's no reason for a random person to run over another person just cause they are blocking the way.

There's definitely reasons that exist why someone should be run over for blocking the way.

If it's an organized protest then yeh I agree you can pick another route and police should disperse the crowd.

On the other hand there are situations that might not be as clear cut as that.  If a persons car is being blocked all of a sudden often the driver has no idea of the intent of the people blocking the path until the vehicle is stopped.  Then they will find out if they're going to get pulled out of the car and have rocks thrown at their head, or if it's a peaceful protest.  But they shouldn't have to wait for that to happen, in that instance running over the people blocking the way is justified.

---

(February 12, 2017 at 9:20 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:Tell that to the people who are being pulled out of their cars. Going after peaceful protesters and running them over is one thing, and should be prosecuted by the law. But if an out of control mob of riotous bastards surround MY truck with their clubs and Molotov cocktails, move out of the way. I'm not sticking around.

Then you'd be prosecuted for not exercising 'due care' under the law being considered.

And I see you're still having trouble differentiating 'protest' from 'riot'.

Boru

A protest is a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something.  A riot and protest aren't mutually exlusive terms.  People can riot as a way to express disaproval of something, which is often the case.

The lesson?  Lefties should start going to their protests with guns.  Lots of guns.  And threats to use those guns.

(February 12, 2017 at 8:37 am)Bella Morte Wrote: I have no sympathy at all for any protestors who get run over or shot for intimidating innocent drivers and bystanders. Stay off the fucking roads and leave others out of it.

Ha ha...you're full of SHIT, you know that?

All this incessant yammering about those violent, scary "others", and here you are advocating the meting out of death sentences to people who are blocking/standing in someone's way...with two tons of metal! Sure, that punishment fits the crime...particularly if the "standers" have scawwy dark faces, funny accents, or are goddamned LEFTIES.

Seriously. You crack me up, evil bitch.

And as far as A Theist is concerned: Well, I've come to expect this sort of hypocrisy from many of the good Christians of this world.
God save us all from those motherfuckers!

Sometimes protests do need to be taken to the streets.

(February 12, 2017 at 9:43 am)TaraJo Wrote:

The lesson?  Lefties should start going to their protests with guns.  Lots of guns.  And threats to use those guns.

And don't use those guns to shoot out the windows of starbucks and an apple store, because you know you're going to be in the starbucks next week on your apple laptop.

(February 12, 2017 at 9:22 am)paulpablo Wrote:

(February 12, 2017 at 8:06 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: you seem like a strong advocate of the stand-your-ground law.

Blocking traffic doesn't make it ok for people to get run over. Feeling intimidated by a crowd  also isn't a good enough reason to run over people. One can always open up a map and pick another route, and even then, if blocking traffic is a headache, there are law agents to arrest or disperse the crowd, there's no reason for a random person to run over another person just cause they are blocking the way.

There's definitely reasons that exist why someone should be run over for blocking the way.

If it's an organized protest then yeh I agree you can pick another route and police should disperse the crowd.

On the other hand there are situations that might not be as clear cut as that.  If a persons car is being blocked all of a sudden often the driver has no idea of the intent of the people blocking the path until the vehicle is stopped.  Then they will find out if they're going to get pulled out of the car and have rocks thrown at their head, or if it's a peaceful protest.  But they shouldn't have to wait for that to happen, in that instance running over the people blocking the way is justified.

No, what you are describing is assault, and yes in case of assault one should defend themselves. But running over someone for simply protesting by blocking traffic is not justifiable.

In murica, that granny across the street can easily pull a gun on me, so should I just randomly drive over her so that I "don't have to wait for that to happen"?

(February 12, 2017 at 9:53 am)Thena323 Wrote: Ha ha...you're full of SHIT, you know that?

All this incessant yammering about those violent, scary "others", and here you are advocating the meting out of death sentences to people who are blocking/standing in someone's way...with two tons of metal! Sure, that punishment fits the crime...particularly if the "standers" have scawwy dark faces, funny accents, or are goddamned LEFTIES.

It has nothing to do with the political views, race or accents of the protestors, if they are surrounding or blocking your car then you should be able to get yourself out of that situation.

Quote:Seriously. You crack me up, evil bitch.

Thanks!

(February 12, 2017 at 10:00 am)Bella Morte Wrote: It has nothing to do with the political views, race or accents of the protestors, if they are surrounding or blocking your car then you should be able to get yourself out of that situation.

By murder? Lol....

Wtf is wrong with you?

(February 12, 2017 at 9:58 am)Aoi Magi Wrote:

(February 12, 2017 at 9:22 am)paulpablo Wrote: There's definitely reasons that exist why someone should be run over for blocking the way.

If it's an organized protest then yeh I agree you can pick another route and police should disperse the crowd.

On the other hand there are situations that might not be as clear cut as that.  If a persons car is being blocked all of a sudden often the driver has no idea of the intent of the people blocking the path until the vehicle is stopped.  Then they will find out if they're going to get pulled out of the car and have rocks thrown at their head, or if it's a peaceful protest.  But they shouldn't have to wait for that to happen, in that instance running over the people blocking the way is justified.

No, what you are describing is assault, and yes in case of assault one should defend themselves. But running over someone for simply protesting by blocking traffic is not justifiable.

In murica, that granny across the street can easily pull a gun on me, so should I just randomly drive over her so that I "don't have to wait for that to happen"?

If that granny pulls a gun out on you while in front of your vehicle then I think it would be classed as reasonable force to run her over.

I don't understand why you are saying no to begin your sentence.

I fully understand that I am indeed describing an assault.  Yes I am describing an assault.  That's the point I'm making.  Describing an assault that might happen in some instances where a vehicle is surrounded and the driver of the vehicle doesn't know the intentions of the people blocking the path.

I'd extend that to describing robbery, theft of a vehicle and so on.  A vehicle could be stopped for any number of crimes.

I'm not saying the best thing to do is plow through everybody incase someone in front of you is a criminal. 

But I can understand that if someone is run over as a result of blocking someone's path in certain circumstances I think it would be justifiable action.  Which I can't see how anyone could disagree with but on this forum....who knows.