(March 8, 2017 at 4:30 pm)KUSA Wrote: Drich, would you say that your god likes to play hide and seek?

It doesn't matter how much light we receive; but rather, how we respond to the light we have.

It's more like you're convincing yourself that there is light, when in fact you're just as much in the dark as you ever were.

(March 8, 2017 at 4:56 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(March 8, 2017 at 4:30 pm)KUSA Wrote: Drich, would you say that your god likes to play hide and seek?

It doesn't matter how much light we receive; but rather, how we respond to the light we have.

Let me flip the script.

It doesn't matter how much logic we receive; but rather, how we respond to the logic we have.

(March 8, 2017 at 7:55 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(March 8, 2017 at 4:56 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: It doesn't matter how much light we receive; but rather, how we respond to the light we have.

Let me flip the script.

It doesn't matter how much logic we receive; but rather, how we respond to the logic we have.

And what makes you think whatever your atheistic position is that it any more logical than Christian one.

(March 8, 2017 at 7:58 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(March 8, 2017 at 7:55 pm)KUSA Wrote: Let me flip the script.

It doesn't matter how much logic we receive; but rather, how we respond to the logic we have.

And what makes you think whatever your atheistic position is that it any more logical than Christian one.

Science.

Because belief is withheld until sufficient evidence dictates otherwise.

(March 8, 2017 at 7:58 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(March 8, 2017 at 7:55 pm)KUSA Wrote: Let me flip the script.

It doesn't matter how much logic we receive; but rather, how we respond to the logic we have.

And what makes you think whatever your atheistic position is that it any more logical than Christian one.

Everything.  Especially the behaviour of its followers.

(March 8, 2017 at 1:14 pm)Nonpareil Wrote:

(March 8, 2017 at 9:58 am)Drich Wrote: Omg, you guys are retards.

He said, without a hint of irony.

(March 8, 2017 at 9:58 am)Drich Wrote: 1) The point you made was asked and answered in the first paragraph second post of 115.
2) meaning the point you made, was answered

No, Drich. It wasn't. I explained this.

I stated, very simply, that if your relationship with God is not a delusion, then it must be demonstrable in some way. You responded by claiming that God has a different kind of relationship with every person, which does not in any way actually answer the point raised; it simply says that each person would have to demonstrate their relationship with God differently. Then you went off on a rant about The Book of Eli that had nothing to do with anything.

I then pointed this out, to which you responded that I was cherry-picking. I was not.

You really don't seem to understand what is being said to you.

He said without a hint of irony...

Yet Drich is willing to go back and break everything he said down to a 3rd grade level anyway...

It seems despite your book of Eli protest and your willful selective ignorance, you do indeed need to know what I said to you inorder for you to catch up with what is currently being discussed.

So you ask for proof of God working with/in us.

The book of Eli was meant to point out how one man can be used. Yet on the surface, may simply look like a well trained, well studied or well educated person who simply focused his efforts on God.

I made the parallel between Eli in the movie and a navy seal. Meaning without observing anything other than their ability to fight you might think or judge the to be equal.

but it is not till the end of the movie that you discover eli is blind, and truly eli was little more than a vessle in which God use to fight and perserve his word. Because Eli was operating on a level well beyond his physical attributes would allow him. So then when he fought on a navy seal level, it was not eli fighting...

The same is true here with us. It just depends on which one of us on this web site you speak of. we all have our weaknesses Some greater than others. I would contend over the years that these weaknesses would be an equal impediment if not greater than lack of sight would be to a fighter. You would simply have to know who you were speaking to and on what subject.

I gave examples of love. That is one attribute we/ all share I feel that is on a far greater level than what the atheist side of the argument brings. Not to say these arguemnts can't get heated, but the overwhelmingly driving force for those of us that show up and try and bring the gospel here is love. a love for our fellow man so great we can not sit silently. This is what put me in the middle of a 20 to one arguement and has me answer each and every single one of you till I feel you are still serious. not once or twice, but almost every day for years.

There is something far greater that fuels our desire to have our egos shot at daily, to have our pride stabbed at constantly, to put our core being on display and have it picked apart by literally dozens.

But again each one according to our gifts. Which is why I asked rhetorically what specifically it was you were looking for.

(March 9, 2017 at 1:17 pm)Drich Wrote: I gave examples of love. That is one attribute we/ all share I feel that is on a far greater level than what the atheist side of the argument brings. Not to say these arguemnts can't get heated, but the overwhelmingly driving force for those of us that show up and try and bring the gospel here is love. a love for our fellow man so great we can not sit silently. This is what put me in the middle of a 20 to one arguement and has me answer each and every single one of you till I feel you are still serious. not once or twice, but almost every day for years.

There is something far greater that fuels our desire to have our egos shot at daily, to have our pride stabbed at constantly, to put our core being on display and have it picked apart by literally dozens.

But again each one according to our gifts. Which is why I asked rhetorically what specifically it was you were looking for.

Ah, love redefined. Apologists call the strangest things love.  I think it's ego that drives you here.

(March 9, 2017 at 1:17 pm)Drich Wrote: So you ask for proof of God working with/in us.

Yes.

(March 9, 2017 at 1:17 pm)Drich Wrote: The book of Eli was meant to point out how one man can be used. Yet on the surface, may simply look like a well trained, well studied or well educated person who simply focused his efforts on God.

This does not address the point. Hence, it was ignored.

It does not matter how you think God interacts with someone. If God is actually interacting with them, it does not matter how it looks on the surface. There must still be some demonstrable difference between what is actually happening and "this man is just deluded". You must still be able to present proof.

And so on for the rest of your ramble. It does not matter what you say about "God interacts with people in different ways" or "it might not look as though God is present to outsiders" or anything else. If you are actually communing with God, there is necessarily a means to demonstrate this that shows that you are not simply making shit up.