Hey, whatever floats your boat. If you want to go with just the heels, I doubt the faithful would mind too much. Loincloths are so BC anyway.

*BCE*



Nah, I'm not actually a fan of heels (I wear them on occasion, when the need arises).

The loin cloth, or something similar would just be to stop these heretics' blood hitting certain parts of my anatomy. But, for the rest, blood is easier to wash off bare skin.

(March 23, 2017 at 5:29 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(March 23, 2017 at 5:04 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_religion


My bold.

Thank fuck this religion isn't as widespread as Christianity or Islam, lol.

Perhaps it should be revived.

I know of a lot of individuals from a number of religions who would be prime candidates for sacrifice...

Only problem is the Aztec sacrifices weren't unwilling victims. They were actually honoured and were only too eager to be the star of the show. I don't imagine there's too many modern religiosos who would understand that concept.

(March 23, 2017 at 6:02 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(March 23, 2017 at 5:29 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Perhaps it should be revived.

I know of a lot of individuals from a number of religions who would be prime candidates for sacrifice...

Only problem is the Aztec sacrifices weren't unwilling victims. They were actually honoured and were only too eager to be the star of the show. I don't imagine there's too many modern religiosos who would understand that concept.

As they Catholic church discovered during the inquisition, there is nothing a person won't admit or agree to if properly "persuaded".

(March 23, 2017 at 6:02 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(March 23, 2017 at 5:29 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Perhaps it should be revived.

I know of a lot of individuals from a number of religions who would be prime candidates for sacrifice...

Only problem is the Aztec sacrifices weren't unwilling victims. They were actually honoured and were only too eager to be the star of the show. I don't imagine there's too many modern religiosos who would understand that concept.

And our sources are Spanish ( i.e. catholick ) writers with an incentive to exaggerate the blood-thirstiness.

(March 23, 2017 at 6:02 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(March 23, 2017 at 5:29 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Perhaps it should be revived.

I know of a lot of individuals from a number of religions who would be prime candidates for sacrifice...

Only problem is the Aztec sacrifices weren't unwilling victims. They were actually honoured and were only too eager to be the star of the show. I don't imagine there's too many modern religiosos who would understand that concept.

Willing or unwilling... 10,000-80,000 people is still a lot of suffering. Most of them may have been deluded enough to WILLINGLY suffer enormously but they still suffered enormously.

If they could all be Heavens Gate we wouldn't need this conversation.

(March 23, 2017 at 4:45 pm)TheAtheologian Wrote: What do you think the deadliest/bloodiest religion in history was?
With the religious terrorism of this day, it seems many horrific things have been done in the name of religion.


It doesn't have to be a religion alive today, just some religion (historical and/or modern) that you consider to have been the most deadly.

I really do hate our species comparing numbers like this. All religions are potential volcanos, some are simply more active than others in context of human history. Who killed more is pointless to me because religion is the excuse people use, but it is not the source of cruelty. Our evolution is the source of our behaviors both cruel and compassionate. Religions come and go over time and humans have always made excuses using them to do both bad and good. 

You wont get rid of any religion by force, but we do need to see ourselves as the same species and have a scientific understanding in terms of evolution and human psychology to gain an understanding as to why this is not the right question to ask. This question causes the believer (insert any religion here) to think in divisive tribal terms and that can cause the pissing contest our species gets stuck in.

Humans kill because we do. Humans naturally defend that which they are familiar with, so we are widely likely to defend the society we grow up in. Religion is the excuse humans use to do that. 20,000 years from now, if we don't kill ourselves off, we would expect to see current religions die or morph to something unrecognizable by comparison and still have people murdering over them, even between sects under the same umbrella label, much like Protestants and Catholics in Ireland did in the 80s and 90s. Much like Sunnis and Shiites unfortunately still do in the middle east.

It doesn't matter who kills more. What matters is logic and seeing nature as nature and that understanding in natural terms instead of superstition gives us better solutions to reduce conflict. It is still very important to study all religions and compare their histories yes, but for the purpose of deconstructing bad logic, but not for the purpose of finger pointing. Our species will always produce both cruelty and compassion and unfortunately evolution does not care which wins. It is up to us to know both are part of our reality and then it becomes a choice as to how we respond to each other.

Yeah TBH I don't really think numbers even count.

And here's the laymen's explanation for why:

Maybe I am just being pedantic here, but I really don't see how a religion can be deadly. That's like saying atheism is deadly due to the high body count of dictators like Stalin and Mao.