Quote:Sunnis believe the Mahdi will be born, the Jews believe the Messiah will be born, etc....

And they're all fucking nuts.

(April 9, 2017 at 1:01 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Sunnis believe the Mahdi will be born, the Jews believe the Messiah will be born, etc....

And they're all fucking nuts.

Min, most people do not sincerely strive to find the truth. Don't be one of those people.

You are intelligent enough to break down the arguments of Quran, prove God and his oneness, the need of Messengers, the issue of succession and groups of chosen families who guide by the truth and even proven the need of a consistent number of successors in the family of each founding Messenger. 

You know people are in need of guidance, and that the world will have to rally around a true flag and ship that leads to God and points to God.

Everyone here just likes your rude attitude because it makes them feel better to see you belittle others, as if, you are on a different playing field.

But at the end, what you valued and loved the most is what you worshiped the most, and you choose your dogmas and put your faith in one whatever group of people you sought water from....

Worshiping God will free you from all false idols. There is no harm. Time to accept who you truly are and mystic link you are connected to, by which you are connected to God and all things.

Stop with your bullshit. 

I don't give a flying fuck about your primitive desert nonsense.  Grow up, son.  It's just bullshit.

(April 8, 2017 at 8:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Some of them think he did come back.  In 1914.  As  Kaiser Bill.

https://www.jashow.org/articles/false-te...of-christ/

Quote:Jehovah’s Witnesses have put a strange spin on the subject of the second coming of Jesus Christ. This was due to the failure of a prophecy by them that He was to return visibly in 1914 (updated once from 1874!). When Jesus did not show up on their date, they were forced to explain away the failure. They did this by seizing on a secondary meaning of one Greek word used in conjunction with Christ’s coming again. That word was parousia meaning “a being present, presence,” “a coming,” “an arrival.”

Aha! They had an “out”! They would teach that Jesus did “come” and was “present” on their date, 1914, but since He did this in heaven, those on earth could not see it! His coming was conveniently invisible!

Great hat, jesus.

I... Um, I think I prefer Rastafari.

(April 9, 2017 at 2:28 am)Minimalist Wrote: Stop with your bullshit. 

I don't give a flying fuck about your primitive desert nonsense.  Grow up, son.  It's just bullshit.

Now don't hold back tell him what you really feel.

God acts in many ways to bring salvation. However many of those things you reason away. NDE's as an example, I know of occasions where God Himself has spoken to people on deaths door, giving them salvation, even letting them return with a message. However there are tons of atheists out there who reason it away with their logic. I also have seen many minor, and some larger miracles in my life, but when I tell them to people often they call me a lier. It is not that I am lying. God is willing to show Himself to us, but we must be prepared to listen. There are always two arguments the devils, and God's, our destiny rests in which one we follow, and choose.

I would not ask a christian questions like that. They probably have postie notes marking the pages in their KJV  just waiting for some unsuspecting fool to ask it. You ask and you will be saying "Really, I have to go! No, I do. Stop following me!" Life's too short.

(April 9, 2017 at 5:35 am)hopey Wrote: God acts in many ways to bring salvation. However many of those things you reason away. NDE's as an example, I know of occasions where God Himself has spoken to people on deaths door, giving them salvation, even letting them return with a message. However there are tons of atheists out there who reason it away with their logic. I also have seen many minor, and some larger miracles in my life, but when I tell them to people often they call me a lier. It is not that I am lying. God is willing to show Himself to us, but we must be prepared to listen. There are always two arguments the devils, and God's, our destiny rests in which one we follow, and choose.

Let me guess: God's way is listening to the voices in your head, and the devil's way is applying logic and reason. What could possibly go wrong...

(April 9, 2017 at 5:35 am)hopey Wrote: God acts in many ways to bring salvation. However many of those things you reason away. NDE's as an example, I know of occasions where God Himself has spoken to people on deaths door, giving them salvation, even letting them return with a message. However there are tons of atheists out there who reason it away with their logic. I also have seen many minor, and some larger miracles in my life, but when I tell them to people often they call me a lier. It is not that I am lying. God is willing to show Himself to us, but we must be prepared to listen. There are always two arguments the devils, and God's, our destiny rests in which one we follow, and choose.

This is it, we choose what to listen to and believe. Irrational dark whispers of destruction or healing calls by God's forces.

When a person is committed to believing in the false idol and orienting his self by it, and seeks the help of Satan heedlessly, not knowing that he constantly prays to him by valuing his uncleanness and falsehood above all else, and seeking his help from his falsehood, then what can be done?

When one values their caprice over God, and takes it as a god, what can be done?

I don't give up anyone, but, to put responsibility for the believers to guide the disbelievers and convince them, is not something Quran advocates.  All we can do is remind them of clear proofs and clear knowledge of the link we have with the divine and the higher worlds.

God doesn't veil himself from people except people orient their actions for other than Him.

I have no doubt the concept of God Atheists have with they think of Islamic God, I would not worship.  And it's only through his name that we can truly turn ourselves towards God and orient our projection towards his remembrance.

And peace be upon those who follow the guidance always, and may that peace spread to the world.

Looks like MK has a clone.