(April 13, 2017 at 4:20 pm)AceBoogie Wrote:

(April 13, 2017 at 8:29 am)SteveII Wrote: I listed four attributes. I would add Holy and sovereign. A study on the attributes of God would reveal how these are balanced with each other. For example, Holiness and justice have to be balanced with love and compassion.

lol Noah's Ark.

Your move.

Seems that was Justice. 

Genesis 5
5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.

(April 13, 2017 at 4:26 pm)SteveII Wrote: Seems that was genocide. 

Genesis 5
5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.

Fixed that for you.

(April 13, 2017 at 4:29 pm)AceBoogie Wrote:

(April 13, 2017 at 4:26 pm)SteveII Wrote: Seems that was genocide. 

Genesis 5
5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.

Fixed that for you.

Setting aside that you used the word genocide wrong, you think people whose "thoughts and hearts were evil all the time" should be put in time-out? Are you saying that God was not justified in wiping the slate clean? On what do you base that?

(April 13, 2017 at 5:00 pm)SteveII Wrote:

(April 13, 2017 at 4:29 pm)AceBoogie Wrote: Fixed that for you.

Setting aside that you used the word genocide wrong, you think people whose "thoughts and hearts were evil all the time" should be put in time-out? Are you saying that God was not justified in wiping the slate clean? On what do you base that?

WWJD? 

Oh no, do we have an inconsistency? 

My guess is that the fantasy says no.

(April 11, 2017 at 10:04 pm)AceBoogie Wrote: For Christians, Muslims, Jews, anyone really...

How do you guys feel about the violent/hateful verses in the Torah, Quran and Bible?

How do you reconcile these contradicting ideas? That Christanity/Islam/Judiasm is peaceful, yet their scriptures contain verses that would make even the most violent sociopath cringe a bit....?

Here are a few ways this reconciliation takes place:

Delusion, mental redaction, excuses, lies, stupidity, self deception, and denial.

(April 13, 2017 at 5:11 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(April 13, 2017 at 5:00 pm)SteveII Wrote: Setting aside that you used the word genocide wrong, you think people whose "thoughts and hearts were evil all the time" should be put in time-out? Are you saying that God was not justified in wiping the slate clean? On what do you base that?

WWJD? 

Oh no, do we have an inconsistency? 

My guess is that the fantasy says no.

Jesus spoke more about Hell than Heaven. So, no, we don't have an inconsistency.

(April 13, 2017 at 5:00 pm)SteveII Wrote:

(April 13, 2017 at 4:29 pm)AceBoogie Wrote: Fixed that for you.

Setting aside that you used the word genocide wrong, you think people whose "thoughts and hearts were evil all the time" should be put in time-out? Are you saying that God was not justified in wiping the slate clean? On what do you base that?

What about the infants and children? Christians always gloss that over. I'm pretty sure there's no way to argue that their deaths at least, are clear cut murder. Or would be if any of the bible actually happened.

Yahweh punishes the innocent along with the guilty.

Why did Yahweh not, for instance, make personal appearances to these peoples to get them to change their ways? They'd never seen nor heard from him, so why would they follow his rules, which they may not even know about?


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(April 13, 2017 at 5:50 pm)SteveII Wrote:

(April 13, 2017 at 5:11 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: WWJD? 

Oh no, do we have an inconsistency? 

My guess is that the fantasy says no.

Jesus spoke more about Hell than Heaven. So, no, we don't have an inconsistency.

Of course not. How convenient.

So jesus = god. In one millennia it's OK to kill the wicked, in another it's don't kill any and forgive. Got it, consistency.

(April 13, 2017 at 5:00 pm)SteveII Wrote: Setting aside that you used the word genocide wrong, you think people whose "thoughts and hearts were evil all the time" should be put in time-out? Are you saying that God was not justified in wiping the slate clean? On what do you base that?

Genocide: An intentional action to destroy a people in whole or in part.

Sure, many definitions of genocide include a discrimination based on race, political views or social status. Are we really going to start arguing definitions here? Would you rather call it a massacre? A slaughter? Mass murder? Or am I using those ones incorrectly as well?

You think it was okay for a supposedly benevolent god to kill almost every single human being on Earth, women, children and newborn babies included? Surely there were even some innocent men among the bunch too, no?

And you're saying you see no inconsistency here? That a loving god killed almost every single person on the planet? Not to mention that all of these people, since they were so wicked and sinful, were surely sent to hell.

Really?

I would seriously think about the next thing you post because this is embarrassing. I would have more respect if you took the whole "things were different back then" position.

(April 13, 2017 at 5:00 pm)SteveII Wrote: Setting aside that you used the word genocide wrong, you think people whose "thoughts and hearts were evil all the time" should be put in time-out? Are you saying that God was not justified in wiping the slate clean? On what do you base that?

Award winning theology when you just give up on people and kill them all.

God commanded, and condoned many more human annihilations. Their totals were smaller in number than the flood, but they were no lesser genocides.

The Promised Land conquered by merciless genocide

Deuteronomy 7:1–2 "When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them."

Dear God, please let us slaughter them all

Numbers 21:3 "And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up the Canaanites; and they utterly destroyed them and their cities: and he called the name of the place Hormah."

If they don’t surrender, annihilate them

Deuteronomy 20:15 "When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby. However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you."

Peaceful people massacred so a tribe of Israel can have a place to live

Judges 18:20 "Then they said to him, 'Please inquire of God to learn whether our journey will be successful.' The priest answered them, 'Go in peace. Your journey has the Lord's approval.' … Then they took what Micah had made, and his priest, and went on to Laish, against a people at peace and secure. They attacked them with the sword and burned down their city."


And I'm just getting started. Truly, truly, I say to you, Christians would have easier job defending Charles Manson for he is a man of greater virtue then God of the Bible.