They were also not like-minded in the way that Jesus was actually nice to his enemies. Aside from the whole hellfire bit. The god of the old testament was anything but kind. I grew up firmly believing they were different people entirely because of their significant differences.

Big Daddy and Junior?

There has to be a way of accurately describing (and then understanding and BELIEVING!!) the relationship of God, Jesus and Holy Ghost.

An inaccurate conception of that relationship, and subsequent belief in that mistaken version, is incompatible with Salvation.

At least outside of Mormonism. I think we can all agree (barring some befuddled Mormons themselves) the Mormon understanding of the Trinity is entirely, completely, and fundamentally essentially disordered. I'm trying to get the rest of the religious folks out of that particular jam, but as we can all see, even outside of Mormonism, the Trinity is a tough slog in explaining.

And actually, atheists understanding mainline contemporary Trinitarian doctrine is nothing of any import compared to the dire need for all who strive for Salvation to understand and believe PRECISELY and ACCURATELY exactly what that doctrine is.


I'd suggest, in the earlier mentioned and linked video, a line by line refutation/clarification/expansion of precisely where that video gets it wrong, and how the actuality of the Trinity can be and is clearly described and understood (and then subsequently believed) is just what we need to see here.

(August 9, 2017 at 9:30 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

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What would be the purpose of dividing into three personas 2,000 years ago when there's no mention of  three versions of Yahweh = the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies = in the Old Testament?

 You must have missed the first chapters of Genesis, they have always been the three in one.

GC

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(August 9, 2017 at 8:53 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

(August 9, 2017 at 1:00 am)Godscreated Wrote: He is one God revealed in three persons, who all are completely like minded in every thought.

GC

Luke 22:42New International Version (NIV)
42 “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.”

Yep like minded in every thought.

Except this one...   

That was the human side of Jesus praying, He knew what the next morning would bring. Yet He accepted as a man the will of God. An example you should follow.

(August 9, 2017 at 7:54 pm)Godscreated Wrote:   No you do not grasp it or you would be a Christian, you haven't the fortitude to seek Jesus.

GC

The GB Wrote:Judge not lest ye be...

Never mind. It's GC I'm talking to.

 Yep it's me and you should know not to use scripture that doesn't apply to a conversation... or did you just forget the rest. There was no judgement so none was intended.

GC

(August 9, 2017 at 7:54 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(August 9, 2017 at 7:36 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: We grasp it.  We just don't have the emotional need to swallow the crap like you do.

  No you do not grasp it or you would be a Christian, you haven't the fortitude to seek Jesus.

GC

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Fortitude=Gullibility.

(August 10, 2017 at 12:10 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(August 9, 2017 at 8:53 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Luke 22:42New International Version (NIV)
42 “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.”

Yep like minded in every thought.

Except this one...   

That was the human side of Jesus praying, He knew what the next morning would bring. Yet He accepted as a man the will of God. An example you should follow.

Typical twisted christer thinking. Whatever helps you sleep at night, princess.

(August 9, 2017 at 7:54 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:Judge not lest ye be...

Never mind. It's GC I'm talking to.

 Yep it's me and you should know not to use scripture that doesn't apply to a conversation... or did you just forget the rest. There was no judgement so none was intended.

GC

Make a judgement about someone's character then deny you're doing it. Yep, it's you alright.

And why didn't Jesus know why God had forsaken Him on the cross ???

Godboy shudda been able to noodle that one out with both hands tied behind his back, let alone nailed to a board.

(August 10, 2017 at 7:33 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(August 9, 2017 at 7:54 pm)Godscreated Wrote:   No you do not grasp it or you would be a Christian, you haven't the fortitude to seek Jesus.

GC

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Fortitude=Gullibility.

Don't knock him.  It takes brass balls to have the choice to be man and yet still resolutely choosing to be a howling baboon.

(August 10, 2017 at 12:07 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: And why didn't Jesus know why God had forsaken Him on the cross ???

Godboy shudda been able to noodle that one out with both hands tied behind his back, let alone nailed to a board.

Assuming that the Yeshua guy was an actual person and not an imaginary one it's easy to see how he had been brainwashed all of his life into thinking that he was really Yahweh's son.  His mother had been feeding him a line of BS about it since he was a minute old and the local yokels thought that he was special.  So after years and years of such BS he was convinced that he was the real deal.  Then, when he had gotten nailed he finally realized that the joke was on him.  He was just a deluded lunatic.