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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:31 pm
(August 15, 2017 at 3:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok, I disagree with you about creationism pabsta, but I don't think you're a poe anymore.
My theory personally is that at some point between apes and the human form as it is now (very very close but not quite), God granted "human souls" to one male and one female (Adam and Eve), in the form of intelligence to recognize morality.
I guess scientifically you could explain that as the first neuron/brain connection, or whatever it would be, which made the difference between an innocent animal and a human who is able to understand right from wrong, thus attaining moral free will.
There's evidence primitive proto-humans buried their dead. So there was more going on upstairs before we became Homo Sapiens. Unless big daddy gave Neanderthal man souls.
Oh, and Free Will is a crock. I think I explained that in a number of threads.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:33 pm
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(August 15, 2017 at 3:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok, I disagree with you about creationism pabsta, but I don't think you're a poe anymore.
My theory personally is that at some point between apes and the human form as it is now (very very close but not quite), God granted "human souls" to one male and one female (Adam and Eve), in the form of intelligence to recognize morality.
I guess scientifically you could explain that as the first neuron/brain connection, or whatever it would be, which made the difference between an innocent animal and a human who is able to understand right from wrong, thus attaining moral free will.
You cannot explain it any way other than as the narrative in genesis presents it - or you're running afoul of the quoted catechism..yet again. Not that this helps, since the acceptence of a literal adam and eve - also a requirement by the same quoted catechism is roundly demonstrated to have been false by reference to the "synthesis" part of modern synthesis...you know....
....evolution without the asterisks?
As the church has made explicitly clear, what you are now taking liberties to describe as allegory must be, by a faithful catholic, confessed to be a primal event in a real history - not a fable referring to Some Other Thing™. That's understandable, since the entirety of the catholic faith is built upon it.
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:33 pm
Pabsta, if you cannot accept the reality of evolution -- something which I have actually witnessed in a differentiated cell culture grown by a microbiologist of my acquaintance -- then stop using the things that evolution makes possible. No more state-of-the-art antibiotics for you!
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:40 pm
(August 15, 2017 at 3:30 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (August 15, 2017 at 3:16 pm)pabsta Wrote: And for the record, the Catholic Church PERMITS belief in the theory of evolution AS LONG AS the Catholic believes Adam and Eve were the first human beings infused with a SOUL. By doing so it is not a conflict with Catholicism, though it's still ridiculous.
Well then, the Catholic church would be wrong on the Adam and Eve claim.
How can evolution be ridiculous, when it has been observed, in the wild and in the lab?
READ the articles on creationresearch.org! If you really hold a true position, it should not make you fear to read articles from the opposition in the least. Yet I see people in this forum saying they refuse to read the articles. We all know why that is - because when the articles totally destroy the theory of evolution, *POOF*, you have no choice but to believe in God. It's the typical cowardly atheist response.
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:43 pm
Quote:because when the articles totally destroy the theory of evolution, *POOF*, you have no choice but to believe in God.
We sure this guy isn't a poe?
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:46 pm
(August 15, 2017 at 3:31 pm)Astonished Wrote: (August 15, 2017 at 3:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok, I disagree with you about creationism pabsta, but I don't think you're a poe anymore.
My theory personally is that at some point between apes and the human form as it is now (very very close but not quite), God granted "human souls" to one male and one female (Adam and Eve), in the form of intelligence to recognize morality.
I guess scientifically you could explain that as the first neuron/brain connection, or whatever it would be, which made the difference between an innocent animal and a human who is able to understand right from wrong, thus attaining moral free will.
There's evidence primitive proto-humans buried their dead. So there was more going on upstairs before we became Homo Sapiens.
Sure, but the transition between innocence and moral understanding had to happen at some point. I'm not saying it wasn't a slow process though, but I think there was an instance where something finally "clicked", just enough to where morality could be understood.
This is all my own personal guess of course.
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:46 pm
(August 15, 2017 at 3:43 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Quote:because when the articles totally destroy the theory of evolution, *POOF*, you have no choice but to believe in God.
We sure this guy isn't a poe?
Huh? The whole thing about a poe is that we are not ever sure...
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:49 pm
(August 15, 2017 at 3:46 pm)LastPoet Wrote: (August 15, 2017 at 3:43 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: We sure this guy isn't a poe?
Huh? The whole thing about a poe is that we are not ever sure...
But you can kind of look at the evidence and make an educated guess. Sure, we may never know, but at least we didn't jump to a conclusion without doing our due diligence.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:53 pm
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(August 15, 2017 at 3:40 pm)pabsta Wrote: (August 15, 2017 at 3:30 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Well then, the Catholic church would be wrong on the Adam and Eve claim.
How can evolution be ridiculous, when it has been observed, in the wild and in the lab?
READ the articles on creationresearch.org! If you really hold a true position, it should not make you fear to read articles from the opposition in the least. Yet I see people in this forum saying they refuse to read the articles. We all know why that is - because when the articles totally destroy the theory of evolution, *POOF*, you have no choice but to believe in God. It's the typical cowardly atheist response.
Do you really think you are the first creatard to show up with such "evidence?" You are not news. You are regurgitating the same silly shit that others have done before.
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 4:03 pm
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