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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 9:11 pm
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(November 7, 2017 at 9:10 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The price is the rapist is eternal hell for his evil. Not according to a christian. They done killed them a jew.
Nor you...provided that he marry the poor little girl..or capture her in glorious battle against his enemies.
Frankly.......the only person that might go to hell in this is a little girl who... for some reason...... dies doubting that god is great after all.
Quote:I am telling you God and some people are trying their best to help. You choose to be a helper on side of truthful or you can just follow your desires without guidance from the only Judge who can show you who you are and what you're meant to be.
If this is you and god helping..help less and we'll all be that much better off.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 9:16 pm
I never have seen a Christian interpret their faith in the way you state
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 9:20 pm
(November 7, 2017 at 9:16 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I never have seen a Christian interpret their faith in the way you state
That's par for the course.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 9:20 pm
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 9:21 pm
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Believers commonly express their faith in ways that mask the inherent and objective immorality of their beliefs. Whether this is to assure themselves or others I have no clue..but see no reason to choose between the two options.
That you do so, however, tells me that it's not ignorance. You know how shitty it sounds...but if you say the wrong words, you won't get the popsicles and ponies. You'll be tortured, after a life of suffering, and who wants that, amiright?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 9:27 pm
Quote:The price is the rapist is eternal hell for his evil.
Theism is a perversion of justice
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/12520#justice
And hell is more evil then any act of rape
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/12573#hell
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 9:31 pm
What is good act?
You can't divorce an act, from love, and you can divorce love, from faith in value, and if you don't value what ought to be valued the most, but value things less than that, yes your actions will be worthless.
Not saying you are that state.
I believe now most Atheists here are here mainly because they are looking to see God, to have God proven. When God's proof and light is by which all things are to be known and proven, when his judgment of things defines their value and reality, when all actions are determined by his assessment and measurement and numbering, when all beauty is created through the images he himself creates of our souls by a standard objective......
When God is so manifest, yet hidden, hidden yet manifest...the cure lies in you and God has chosen and obligated through justice, he doesn't guide the unjust people, yet we are to spread and inspire mercy, and changing our injustice to a just sincere state of love of God.
God knows how to dispell all falsehood and the evil magic on the hearts, the false idol and legion of oppressors that reign humanity.
I am not even dust compared to the Prophet he sealed the revelations with, let alone, to God.
I am just saying, give religions all a shot. Give a Quran a rehearse and perhaps everything will click?
All I can say the arguments I have about God I find them more eloquently manifested in Quran. The moral argument for example is stated in many verses, but multilayered in a way that not only proves God, but proves his oneness, not only proves his oneness, but proves a guide from him and connecting link, not only proves that, but proves revelation connecting and guiding to all high stages, not only does that, but proves a message extending to all intellects and levels of understadning, bringing auhtority of God down to everyone.... and thereby a means to unite humanity on the truth and not only does that but shows a clarity exactly of what it is, at each sky, and clarifies all things.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 9:33 pm
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Oh, is that why we're here? You believe many strange things.
In any case;
If he want's to, but doesn't know how, then he is not god.
If he knows how, but doesn;t want to..then he is evil.
If he wants to and knows how...then why haven;t the falsehoods and evil magic been dispelled?
Wait, wait, is it worth it?
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 9:34 pm
I never expected 18 pages based on the OP woo.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
November 7, 2017 at 9:36 pm
(November 7, 2017 at 9:20 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 7, 2017 at 9:16 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I never have seen a Christian interpret their faith in the way you state
That's par for the course.
It's called reading your book...
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