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One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
So more baseless woo MK
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
(November 7, 2017 at 9:36 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(November 7, 2017 at 9:20 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That's par for the course.

It's called reading your book...

In which manner? If a book connects lowest to highest, dispels all falsehood and clarifies all truth pertaining to our guidance.... of course, that requires a humble attitude. Of course somethings are going to be unclear to start with, even the proofs of God will be unclear to us to begin with, but with the right attitude to learn....perhaps the best teacher, God will teach us and guide us?
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
(November 7, 2017 at 9:34 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I never expected 18 pages based on the OP woo.

Give me a penny and I'll give you a dollar.  

More than can be said for god.  Give that bastard a dollar and he'll rape you..then tell ya you owe him for the privilege.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
(November 7, 2017 at 9:39 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(November 7, 2017 at 9:34 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I never expected 18 pages based on the OP woo.

Give me a penny and I'll give you a dollar.  

More than can be said for god.  Give that bastard a dollar and he'll rape you..then tell ya you owe him for the privilege.

I thought the dollar was to not get eternally raped. Do the catholics know about this?
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
And more of MK's crap that one must have "the right attitude" to read his book . Lame excuses are lame .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
Evil is from creation, and good is from God. From one perspective all is from God, but the more important perspective to understand, is evil is due to the destiny man has taken, and all good is from God. Yes humans do good and good comes from humans too, but God is more worthy to be attributed good, and we are more worthy to be attributed evil.

If you want me to explain in detail I will, but I think you already know this, but are just playing coin.

God created everything good and has never created evil and never will. Evil from what he has created, is that, from what he has created.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
(November 7, 2017 at 9:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: For the record, I, at least, am not saying suffering is "good." Suffering is not good, and it is our moral duty to try to alleviate the suffering of others.

I can't answer why God allows suffering in the world. At least not the suffering that isn't caused by other people's actions. But what I do know is that I believe God is good and that we are eternal. And so whatever temporary suffering we endure during this life time, our existence is still worth it for eternity in happiness.

Kind of dodging the point of the POE.

If suffering is not good, and if the sole creator of all that exists is good, then what's up with that?

Either suffering is good to God, or it is not.  If it is good to God, then why would a faithful servant of God try to prevent or eliminate it?  If it is not good to God, then why is he said to be all-good, all-knowing, and all-powerful?

"I dunno.  God is a special case." isn't a particularly strong argument.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
(November 7, 2017 at 9:43 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I thought the dollar was to not get eternally raped. Do the catholics know about this?

I think they charge a little more for that one.  You know...they used to have a nice tidy list where the cost of everything was laid out and you didn't have to haggle with a ghost.  You could even pay up front for expected future sin.  This was one of their most honest ideas, it's strange what they kept and what they didn't.

You know how it is..it;s a sunday and you did some sinning the night before, but it'll be six days before you see the cashier again and you wouldn't want to die with an unforgiven bj on your tab come wednesday.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
(November 7, 2017 at 9:43 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: And more of MK's crap that one must have "the right attitude" to read his book . Lame excuses are lame .

I always confuse attitude with magic seeing stones.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: One sentence that throws the problem of evil out of the window.
God's ways are higher and understand his ways best, is a valid response, if someone doesn't know why but is sure God exists. Despite Atheists hating it.  

But revelations are revealed so we understand and know God, and this question is not beyond our understanding. God is beyond our understanding but the reason why suffering exists is not beyond your comprehession.

It just has these four ingredients:

1. Free-will (God loves freedom).
2. Patience and steadfastness is a form of love God appreciates when it is for his sake.
3. Gratitude and peace in all physical, spiritual, and mental level, was what God intended all along, and did his best to implement that plan keeping mind 1 and 2, God's original number 1 plan didn't happen, but he plans with possibilies going wrong with humans rebelling and becoming part of the dark one's plan. He plans despite people joining Iblis plans.
4. God's original intention will come about sometime no matter what, and so people will see this was always possible given that his guide and light and door was always with us and on earth as well whether hidden or manifest.
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