(November 13, 2017 at 7:44 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(November 13, 2017 at 7:38 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The term "traumatic stress" isn't limited to combat situations, as pointed out. When I handled claims for an insurance company I saw that Dx come over my desk once in a while.

^^^ This ^^^

Combat just happens to be an extra-efficient way to produce PTSD patients.

(November 13, 2017 at 7:44 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(November 13, 2017 at 7:38 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The term "traumatic stress" isn't limited to combat situations, as pointed out. When I handled claims for an insurance company I saw that Dx come over my desk once in a while.

^^^ This ^^^

Combat just happens to be an extra-efficient way to produce PTSD patients.

And via abusive situations. 

I have PTSD stemming from a childhood trauma, which was exacerbated by my ex.

(November 13, 2017 at 6:33 pm)Wololo Wrote:

(November 13, 2017 at 12:01 pm)Cyberman Wrote: I don't remember saying that it was..?

1997 was the year the IRA (apart from a few incompetent splinter groups) gave up violence as a means of achieving their aims, in preparation for the good Friday Agreement.

Interestingly enough the loyalist terrorists have not renounced violence to this day.

And I referenced 2001, the year America declared a war on terror before inflicting it on a sovereign nation.

(November 13, 2017 at 7:43 pm)Joods Wrote:

(November 13, 2017 at 5:41 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Because, quite apart from firearm deaths being the topic of discussion, guns are one of the few items that cause grievous injury and loss of life when used exactly as the manufacturer intended. We've been over this.

Not to mention that it is relevant to the topic of this thread. amirite?

That's what I understand, anyway. When I saw his objection, I thought I'd turned over two pages or something.

(November 13, 2017 at 6:08 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(November 13, 2017 at 5:59 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Perhaps you should state what your goal is here, and what your proposing to solve it.  

If your goal is for less homicides, then it would seem that my question was legitimate, and calling me a moron is not very productive or mature.


Frankly I think you are focusing on the wrong thing.

DAMN, I was supposed to throw a keg party over the fact 36,000 people die on average per year from use of firearms?

OH MY GOD, 59 PEOPLE DEAD AND 500 INJURED, AND A CHURCH SHOOTING,  AWESOME!

KEG PARTY FOR EVERYONE!

Yea because being called a "moron" is far more deadly than attending a outdoor concert where a nut shoots you in the head 32 stories up from a hotel. Sorry my offending you ended your life........... OH WAIT, all you got was offended.

"Moron" is an apt description of your lack of priorities. 


Get back to me when you can prove the word "moron" is as lethal as an assault riffle.

Ok...so apart from the rhetoric, and the bad straw men... what are you proposing....and what do you see that producing?
You sound too me, very much like a shady politician, who is talking about how much he is cutting taxes in this area, where he is raising them somewhere else.
I’m just looking for a straight answer.

"So I can twist it."

The solution is simple: If you want a gun buy one; if you don't want a gun then spend your money on something else. That's known as "freedom".

(November 13, 2017 at 8:46 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The solution is simple:  If you want a gun buy one; if you don't want a gun then spend your money on something else.  That's known as "freedom".

Americans, 4.4% of the world population, own 1/2 the privately owned guns in the world. 3% of Americans own 50% of the 256,000,000 guns in this country.

Quote:The solution is simple:  If you want a gun buy one; if you don't want a gun then spend your money on something else.  That's known as "freedom".

Yup and then like cars you should have too register it .And certain guns should not be allowed . And people with history of violent crimes or mental instability should not be allowed to own one . By your "freedom" logic people should be allowed to own anything . Social responsibility  sometimes trumps freedom .

Apparently they believed in the wrong type of Christianity...