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RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 20, 2017 at 3:30 pm
(November 19, 2017 at 10:55 am)Greatest I am Wrote: (November 18, 2017 at 4:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote: How can you assert such things without first proving them, seems you are a very confused person, get the game right, please.
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Tell us my friend, is using genocide, killing and torturing when one can cure as well as kill, good character traits; be it a man or a God that does the killing instead of curing?
I think curing is the best moral position yet God kills.
Should a God who kills instead of curing be adored, or should such a God be hated?
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DL God cures people all the time and I would suspect since you do not believe in god you can't see what He does. God is the creator and care taker of His people and does as His will requires. Wiping out a whole nation for it's attacks on His people is God's right, He did create them. Just as you have the right to destroy anything you make. Wiping out the entire world with a flood holds the same as I described above. God will protect His plan against anything that would try and prevent them, whether they are aware of what they are doing or not, their intent was evil nonetheless.
How do you cure a people that refuses to believe in God, who would do everything they can to go against His people, atheist should give this serious thought before condemning God for exercising His rights as the creator and savior of man.
God should always be adored, because His will is for the salvation of those who will choose to believe in Christ Jesus and he will defend against all who stand in the way. Jesus said if you are not for me you are against me and it is the later that God will defend His people from when He deems it the best thing to do.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 20, 2017 at 3:50 pm
(November 20, 2017 at 1:10 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (November 20, 2017 at 12:51 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Here is a youtube about the brain I think you'd enjoy. You might already know it.
Thanks for this. It is already in my library and it is well done.
I hope others here have a chance to see it so that the third or single eye concept might be looked into.
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RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 20, 2017 at 3:52 pm
(November 20, 2017 at 2:07 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You know, Greatest, seeing the sorts of things that appeal to you in jesusism, I can't help but think that you might find Havamal even more insightful. It's a huge list of suggestions to transform your life for the better..with much less supernatural filler and inanity.
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/havamal.html
The link didn't work for me.
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RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 20, 2017 at 3:53 pm
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(November 20, 2017 at 2:07 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You know, Greatest, seeing the sorts of things that appeal to you in jesusism, I can't help but think that you might find Havamal even more insightful. It's a huge list of suggestions to transform your life for the better..with much less supernatural filler and inanity.
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/havamal.html
Thanks.
I don't know how you can have less that no supernatural belief, but I will take a look.
I had a look.
Rather simplistic as compared to the Chinese wisdom saying but entertaining.
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RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 20, 2017 at 4:04 pm
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(November 20, 2017 at 3:30 pm)Godscreated Wrote: (November 19, 2017 at 10:55 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Tell us my friend, is using genocide, killing and torturing when one can cure as well as kill, good character traits; be it a man or a God that does the killing instead of curing?
I think curing is the best moral position yet God kills.
Should a God who kills instead of curing be adored, or should such a God be hated?
Regards
DL God cures people all the time and I would suspect since you do not believe in god you can't see what He does. God is the creator and care taker of His people and does as His will requires. Wiping out a whole nation for it's attacks on His people is God's right, He did create them. Just as you have the right to destroy anything you make. Wiping out the entire world with a flood holds the same as I described above. God will protect His plan against anything that would try and prevent them, whether they are aware of what they are doing or not, their intent was evil nonetheless.
How do you cure a people that refuses to believe in God, who would do everything they can to go against His people, atheist should give this serious thought before condemning God for exercising His rights as the creator and savior of man.
God should always be adored, because His will is for the salvation of those who will choose to believe in Christ Jesus and he will defend against all who stand in the way. Jesus said if you are not for me you are against me and it is the later that God will defend His people from when He deems it the best thing to do.
GC
This is what I'm enjoying about GIA's position being represented here:
God? Yeah I got that.
Jesus? Yep, I like mine.
Bible? Great, which cherries did you pick?
Supernatural? Get out of here, you wanker. No need for crazy talk.
Edited to say it wouldn't be worth it to me to claim that belief system just to be able to be included in the Christian franchise or even to annoy the other Christians. But it is fun to watch someone else do so. You don't strike me as a Poe, Greatest. (You aren't, are you?)
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RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 20, 2017 at 4:38 pm
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt
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RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 20, 2017 at 5:26 pm
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(November 20, 2017 at 3:52 pm)Whateverist Wrote: The link didn't work for me. Strange, I get a dead link now too. Here's another.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe04.htm
(November 20, 2017 at 3:53 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Thanks.
I don't know how you can have less that no supernatural belief, but I will take a look.
I had a look.
Rather simplistic as compared to the Chinese wisdom saying but entertaining.
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DL It is simplistic, isn't it? You know what they say about brevity, though.
"My supernatural isn't supernatural" is hardly worth our time. Cut the supernatural out of godman's stories and you're left with borrowed deepities and questionable comments on tribal, familial, and judicial ethics.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 20, 2017 at 5:37 pm
(November 20, 2017 at 5:26 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It is simplistic, isn't it? You know what they say about brevity, though.
"My supernatural isn't supernatural" is hardly worth our time. Cut the supernatural out of godman's stories and you're left with borrowed deepities and questionable comments on tribal, familial, and judicial ethics.
Esoteric ecumenists pick up knowledge and wisdom wherever we find it regardless of if it is in a book of woo or a book of philosophy. The message is more important than the source. Even fairy tales has decent morals. That is why we read them to our kids.
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RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 20, 2017 at 5:42 pm
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If I hadn't made it crystal clear before...I don't think there's much in the way of knowledge and wisdom to be found in jesusism. That's not exactly a stunning absence, since the story of jesus was not meant to impart wisdom but to support mythology. I would suspect that, like any other jesus believer, you're reading the "wisdom" in...rather than extracting it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?
November 20, 2017 at 6:04 pm
(November 20, 2017 at 3:30 pm)Godscreated Wrote: (November 19, 2017 at 10:55 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Tell us my friend, is using genocide, killing and torturing when one can cure as well as kill, good character traits; be it a man or a God that does the killing instead of curing?
I think curing is the best moral position yet God kills.
Should a God who kills instead of curing be adored, or should such a God be hated?
Regards
DL God cures people all the time and I would suspect since you do not believe in god you can't see what He does. God is the creator and care taker of His people and does as His will requires. Wiping out a whole nation for it's attacks on His people is God's right, He did create them. Just as you have the right to destroy anything you make. Wiping out the entire world with a flood holds the same as I described above. God will protect His plan against anything that would try and prevent them, whether they are aware of what they are doing or not, their intent was evil nonetheless.
How do you cure a people that refuses to believe in God, who would do everything they can to go against His people, atheist should give this serious thought before condemning God for exercising His rights as the creator and savior of man.
God should always be adored, because His will is for the salvation of those who will choose to believe in Christ Jesus and he will defend against all who stand in the way. Jesus said if you are not for me you are against me and it is the later that God will defend His people from when He deems it the best thing to do.
GC
If you build a house just to set it on fire when the roof starts leaking, people are going to give you the stinkeye. And you'll be hauled off to jail for killing your kids. Where do people get this idea that it's totally fine to simply destroy whatever you create, just because it's not working correctly. Especially children and animals, or whatever else we have that we create, yet still have minds of their own.
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