Christian: So you have a problem with what god did in the old testament. None of that matters because Jesus came along and changed all that. We're under a new covenant now. You need to read the new testament.
You: I thought god never changes.
Christian: He doesn't.
You: Then he's still just as cruel now as he was in the ot.
Christian: You just don't understand. God doesn't change, but the dispensation changed.
You: So what god dispensed in the ot he is no longer dispensing.
Christian: Yes. See he didn't change. He meant for it to be that way from the beginning.
You. He meant to change?
Christian: No, no, no.
You: You have a definition of change to which I am not privy.

If that is the silliest, then you haven't talked much with em

My cousins* go from lukewarm Baptists to snake handlers, so I get the full range of stupidity. I'd post my favorites but people would be certain I was making that shit up.


*Generic for about 1,500 relatives in this immediate area.

Many people rape, steal and kill because they don't care about anything, be it this life or afterlife. Strong theists at least function well in society, even if they are obsessed with Heaven and eternity and want to convert others in to their goal.

Quote:Many people rape, steal and kill because they don't care about anything

Yeah... the fucking churches are full of them.

(February 10, 2018 at 1:46 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Many people rape, steal and kill because they don't care about anything, be it this life or afterlife. Strong theists at least function well in society, even if they are obsessed with Heaven and eternity and want to convert others in to their goal.

I think you give them too much credit. The ones that are certain they're being judged continuously are also the ones that believe that God sees things pretty much as they do.

(February 10, 2018 at 2:00 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(February 10, 2018 at 1:46 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Many people rape, steal and kill because they don't care about anything, be it this life or afterlife. Strong theists at least function well in society, even if they are obsessed with Heaven and eternity and want to convert others in to their goal.

I think you give them too much credit. The ones that are certain they're being judged continuously are also the ones that believe that God sees things pretty much as they do.

True story: a Jesus freak in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina accepted hush money from a wealthy rapist to keep quiet about a rape he had witnessed. He was convinced that "God gave him that money," and therefore felt no obligation to report what he'd seen to the authorities.

(February 10, 2018 at 2:04 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(February 10, 2018 at 2:00 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I think you give them too much credit. The ones that are certain they're being judged continuously are also the ones that believe that God sees things pretty much as they do.

True story: a Jesus freak in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina accepted hush money from a wealthy rapist to keep quiet about a rape he had witnessed. He was convinced that "God gave him that money," and therefore felt no obligation to report what he'd seen to the authorities.

Sounds right. Some of my SoBap cousins believe making moonshine is okay with God because he wouldn't let the alcohol form if it wasn't.

(February 10, 2018 at 1:45 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: My cousins* go from lukewarm Baptists to snake handlers, so I get the full range of stupidity. I'd post my favorites but people would be certain I was making that shit up.


*Generic for about 1,500 relatives in this immediate area.

Have you looked into adoption?  I've heard it is never too late to have a happy childhood and from what you describe a change of family could only help.

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(February 10, 2018 at 2:04 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(February 10, 2018 at 2:00 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I think you give them too much credit. The ones that are certain they're being judged continuously are also the ones that believe that God sees things pretty much as they do.

True story: a Jesus freak in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina accepted hush money from a wealthy rapist to keep quiet about a rape he had witnessed. He was convinced that "God gave him that money," and therefore felt no obligation to report what he'd seen to the authorities.

Praise the lord!

My wife vows that I'm adopted.