(April 16, 2018 at 1:29 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(April 16, 2018 at 8:03 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Beware, some like to make out as if only atheist have a burden of proof.

Those who say theists are wrong to believe and yet opine that God does not exist without defending their position are pussies.

Oh hey!
Just the other day, I was reading a book about neurology and a few paragraphs were dedicated to your buddy Swedenborg...
Do you want me to take pictures of the relevant pages?

(April 16, 2018 at 2:20 pm)pocaracas Wrote:

(April 16, 2018 at 1:29 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Those who say theists are wrong to believe and yet opine that God does not exist without defending their position are pussies.

Oh hey!
Just the other day, I was reading a book about neurology and a few paragraphs were dedicated to your buddy Swedenborg...
Do you want me to take pictures of the relevant pages?

Not necessary, I was already aware of his role in development of neural and the bicameral theories of the brain....(and role the clitorus in female pleasure)

(April 16, 2018 at 2:46 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(April 16, 2018 at 2:20 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Oh hey!
Just the other day, I was reading a book about neurology and a few paragraphs were dedicated to your buddy Swedenborg...
Do you want me to take pictures of the relevant pages?

Not necessary, I was already aware of his role in development of neural and the bicameral theories of the brain....(and role the clitorus in female pleasure)

Yet still stupidly thinks that only Christians argue against science when it conflicts with their old mythology, and argue after the fact knowing it won't prop up their mythology because it it is after the fact. 

Nope NEO, sorry, but every religion pulls the same crap. When you cant simply quote your holy writing, you attack science. When you cant debunk science you try to get it to point to your club. Jews and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhist try the same crap.

(April 8, 2018 at 5:29 pm)ShirkahnW Wrote: I am going to debate a theist over the existence of god soon. What are the best arguments you ever heard from theists? Any tips on what topic to avoid in such an discussion? 
Thanks in advance

I would avoid traps, but don't try to avoid topics. It may sound tacky, but you have the truth on your side. A reasonable and honest assessment of the world does not demonstrate evidence of God. Seek to clarify the issue as much as possible and be as honest as you can.

Leave the misleading rhetoric and sleazy dodges to the apologists. We don't need to avoid the real issue.

I tend to ask..

Can you show me anything here tonight that show me an observable and provable difference between god and no god ?

(April 16, 2018 at 5:20 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:

(April 8, 2018 at 5:29 pm)ShirkahnW Wrote: I am going to debate a theist over the existence of god soon. What are the best arguments you ever heard from theists? Any tips on what topic to avoid in such an discussion? 
Thanks in advance

I would avoid traps, but don't try to avoid topics. It may sound tacky, but you have the truth on your side. A reasonable and honest assessment of the world does not demonstrate evidence of God. Seek to clarify the issue as much as possible and be as honest as you can.

Leave the misleading rhetoric and sleazy dodges to the apologists. We don't need to avoid the real issue.

I would give the exact same advice to another Christian

(April 16, 2018 at 5:49 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:

(April 16, 2018 at 5:20 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I would avoid traps, but don't try to avoid topics. It may sound tacky, but you have the truth on your side. A reasonable and honest assessment of the world does not demonstrate evidence of God. Seek to clarify the issue as much as possible and be as honest as you can.

Leave the misleading rhetoric and sleazy dodges to the apologists. We don't need to avoid the real issue.

I would give the exact same advice to another Christian

You'd rather they become an atheist?

(April 16, 2018 at 5:52 pm)Grandizer Wrote:

(April 16, 2018 at 5:49 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I would give the exact same advice to another Christian

You'd rather they become an atheist?

Well obviously with the people reversed.

(April 16, 2018 at 5:54 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:

(April 16, 2018 at 5:52 pm)Grandizer Wrote: You'd rather they become an atheist?

Well obviously with the people reversed.

Except what VL said cannot apply to your worldview ...

(April 16, 2018 at 5:55 pm)Grandizer Wrote:

(April 16, 2018 at 5:54 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Well obviously with the people reversed.

Except what VL said cannot apply to your worldview ...

Sorry, I didn’t think it would be that difficult to figure out what I meant, and what I would say differently.

Never mind if this is difficult for you.