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RE: The Bible condemns homosexuality.
April 25, 2018 at 6:35 am
(April 25, 2018 at 12:44 am)Godscreated Wrote: (April 25, 2018 at 12:37 am)Lutrinae Wrote: The same argument could be made for why you haven't received messages from Odin.
I've never tried to speak to something that doesn't exist. I've received much from God and one thing He has made clear is there are no other gods, those who suppose there are are talking to wood and stone, silly people.
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I'm not denying that God exists to you. I'm not denying that you've received much from him. What I am denying is that he exists outside your imagination or that you received anything other than your own thoughts based on your own conception of an imaginary entity. When you 'received much from God' you were receiving much crap from your own brain.
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RE: The Bible condemns homosexuality.
April 25, 2018 at 9:37 am
(April 25, 2018 at 12:27 am)Godscreated Wrote: (April 24, 2018 at 7:56 am)vorlon13 Wrote: I'll assume chasing people with a whip and vandalism remain OK.
Jehanne gives you kudos for not answering what about the age of the Protestant Church and Jesus never hurt anyone and was well within His right to chase those off who were defiling the temple, the House of God. You see that temple was His also.
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Can I get you to take a shot at reconciling "Chasing people with a whip Jesus" with "Meek Jesus" ?? Someone chasing me with a whip I'm unlikely to ever refer to as 'meek', but I would entertain some thoughts on squaring up the confusion here, which, unfortunately so far, seems to be in Jesus's head, not mine.
Matthew 11 (KJV)
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
If Jesus was chasing you with a whip for perhaps an ill directed donation of yours to a fraudulent ministry, would the word 'meek' spring unbidden in your mind during the chase ??
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RE: The Bible condemns homosexuality.
April 25, 2018 at 10:17 am
(April 23, 2018 at 6:26 pm)Divinity Wrote: Dear Christians:
My daughter, a Lesbian wants to know:
If God is going to send her to hell for having a sexual relationship with her wife... then why shouldn't she kill every Christian she meets? Why shouldn't she steal from every church? Why shouldn't she blow up churches? Because by their logic, she should. After all, she's going to hell. Shouldn't she at least do something to get in Satan's Good graces, instead of being a good person on earth? If god's going to punish her for being a lesbian, she probably should just go out and do as much evil as possible so at least she'll feel she deserves it.
By our logic, she should confess, repent, and go to heaven. 
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RE: The Bible condemns homosexuality.
April 25, 2018 at 10:23 am
Well, these days, we'd acknowledge Trump's (Praise Trump!) fondness for girl on girl action, and ease up on the repentance part and start looking at a new sacrament for the faithful.
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RE: The Bible condemns homosexuality.
April 25, 2018 at 11:05 am
(April 25, 2018 at 10:23 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Well, these days, we'd acknowledge Trump's (Praise Trump!) fondness for girl on girl action, and ease up on the repentance part and start looking at a new sacrament for the faithful.
You could repent and go to heaven for eternity too. God would still welcome you with open arms.
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RE: The Bible condemns homosexuality.
April 25, 2018 at 11:09 am
(April 25, 2018 at 11:05 am)alpha male Wrote: (April 25, 2018 at 10:23 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Well, these days, we'd acknowledge Trump's (Praise Trump!) fondness for girl on girl action, and ease up on the repentance part and start looking at a new sacrament for the faithful.
You could repent and go to heaven for eternity too. God would still welcome you with open arms.
You're a grown up, dude. Enough fantasies.
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RE: The Bible condemns homosexuality.
April 25, 2018 at 11:20 am
(April 25, 2018 at 11:09 am)Grandizer Wrote: You're a grown up, dude. Enough fantasies.
Yes, I'm a grown-up. I'm highly intelligent and fairly successful at life. And, I believe in the God of the Bible.
Other highly intelligent grown-ups have believed in other gods, or been atheists.
Point is that it's not wise to just blithely dismiss the possibility of god and an afterlife. Particularly if, as with the Christian god, a life of sin can be undone and the punishment foregone.
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RE: The Bible condemns homosexuality.
April 25, 2018 at 11:33 am
(This post was last modified: April 25, 2018 at 11:34 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Any moral god would punish you for affirming christian ideology. You can always renounce it, ofc, and redeem yourself.
Point is that it's unwise to just blithely dismiss the possibility of a moral god and afterlife. Particularly if, as with that moral god, a life of christianity can be undone and the punishment forgone
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RE: The Bible condemns homosexuality.
April 25, 2018 at 11:37 am
(April 25, 2018 at 11:33 am)Khemikal Wrote: Any moral god would punish you for affirming christian ideology. You can always renounce it, ofc, and redeem yourself.
Point is that it's unwise to just blithely dismiss the possibility of a moral god and afterlife. Particularly if, as with that moral god, a life of christianity can be undone and the punishment forgone
Didn't take long for you to contradict yourself.
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RE: The Bible condemns homosexuality.
April 25, 2018 at 11:39 am
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Goodness, you mean..silly shit like that isn't very convincing to you? I'm shocked, I was -this- close to crying out for some jesus, myself! 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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