(June 4, 2018 at 9:11 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(June 4, 2018 at 8:37 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It doesn't matter what the pope says.  The Bible (the word of God) says homosexuality is an abomination.  Man was not designed to sleep with man and woman was not designed to sleep with woman.  People guilty of this sin should repent to the Lord.  Now, we are all sinners so it is up to God who will be saved.

I think that "your message" constitutes child abuse, and should be punished as such under the Law.

How is that child abuse?

When tell young children (such as myself) things that disturb them to the point where they suffer emotional damage, such is child abuse:

Quote:Terrorizing the child with continual verbal assaults, creating a climate of fear, hostility, and anxiety, thus preventing the child from gaining feelings of safety and security.

Mental Injury -- Iowa law

(June 4, 2018 at 3:04 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(June 4, 2018 at 2:25 am)Godscreated Wrote: God doesn't make people with homosexual tendencies

Correct. People are born.

You see when a mummy and daddy love each other very much ...

You can't get more stupid can you, or can you.

GC

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(June 4, 2018 at 4:01 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:

(June 4, 2018 at 2:25 am)Godscreated Wrote: God doesn't make people with homosexual tendencies, that would be tempting a person to sin and god says He does not tempt people. The temptation comes from our lack of self control or Satan.

GC

What the fuck was Jesus talking to and about in the Lord's Prayer ??

"Lead us not into temptation . . . . "  Of what use is it to beseech God to not do something of which He is incapable.?


Can we PLEASE get a handle on the heresy here ???

 To protect us from

GC

(June 4, 2018 at 2:25 am)Godscreated Wrote: God doesn't make people with homosexual tendencies, that would be tempting a person to sin and god says He does not tempt people. The temptation comes from our lack of self control or Satan.

GC

You almost got it here.

God doesn't make people with homosexual tendencies.

But that's because God doesn't make people.  Because God doesn't exist.  He's a figment of your imagination.  Just like Satan is.

(June 4, 2018 at 8:15 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I am surprised that none of our resident Catholics have replied to this thread???

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(June 4, 2018 at 2:25 am)Godscreated Wrote: God doesn't make people with homosexual tendencies, that would be tempting a person to sin and god says He does not tempt people. The temptation comes from our lack of self control or Satan.

GC

GL,

When I was 12 to 13, I used to wake-up in the middle of the night running around my house screaming that I had died and gone to eternal Hell, sometimes having multiple such night terrors (a term that I learned much later in life) during the same night's "rest'.  Do you think that my experiences were a lack of "self control" or were my night terrors the work of the Devil?  You see, GC, I was wearing skirts and dresses as a biological male preteen and was taught that such was due to my sinful nature and that I would burn in eternal Hell as a consequence.

Dawn

 First of all the devil doesn't want you to believe there is such a place, if everyone was certain hell was real then there would be no atheist, at least sane ones. So no the devil did not do it. I'm not sure what you mean by lack of self control, generally dreams are not controlled and come from an resting mind and body. Your dreams may have stemmed from what others were telling you, who these others are I have no idea but they must have been influential in your life. What you did as a preteen could have lead you down a wrong path but since I wasn't there how can I say, you seem to think I know more about you than I do. I know little about you and do not pretend to know enough to say much. What I d think I already explained, your night terrors probably were influenced by what others were saying.

GC

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(June 4, 2018 at 11:50 pm)Cecelia Wrote:

(June 4, 2018 at 2:25 am)Godscreated Wrote: God doesn't make people with homosexual tendencies, that would be tempting a person to sin and god says He does not tempt people. The temptation comes from our lack of self control or Satan.

GC

You almost got it here.

God doesn't make people with homosexual tendencies.

But that's because God doesn't make people.  Because God doesn't exist.  He's a figment of your imagination.  Just like Satan is.

 You forgot something vitally important in your positive statement, proof.

GC

Proof?

The Bible states that prayer has the power to move mountains.
Nobody has ever moved a mountain with prayer
Therefore God does not exist.

(June 4, 2018 at 3:44 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You worry so much about the face and the truth and the light...but what if the face was what things were?  Theists like you look bad becaue you -are-.  Face it....your god hates you, lol.

He can;t stand to look at you.  Let god heal you first.  Then talk to other people.

The Christian God loved us so much that He came to this world Himself and suffered and died a terrible death.  All we need to do is believe in Him to be saved.  The Christian God loves His people and even His enemies as He offers them enough time and opportunity to choose Him.

(June 5, 2018 at 1:26 am)CDF47 Wrote: The Christian God loved us so much that He came to this world Himself and suffered and died a terrible death.  All we need to do is believe in Him to be saved.  The Christian God loves His people and even His enemies as He offers them enough time and opportunity to choose Him.

He loves people so much he's going to burn people for eternity if they don't love him back.

Sounds like an abusive relationship to me.  Also the fact that he had to literally have a blood sacrifice just to forgive people makes him seem like even more of a monster tbh.

(June 2, 2018 at 10:48 pm)Kit Wrote:

(June 2, 2018 at 10:46 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: The Dalai Lama has a similar hat trick to this too. When he got called out for being against homosexuality he responded that it's only wrong if you are a Buddhist trying to be a good buddhist. Uhhhh, well when you are also saying being a good Buddhist is the way to go, put that together.

Buddhists are naturally confusing.

That religion makes no sense.  A man sat under a tree and figured out how to minimize caring.  There is no real creation story.

(June 5, 2018 at 1:26 am)CDF47 Wrote: The Christian God loved us so much that He came to this world Himself and suffered and died a terrible death.  All we need to do is believe in Him to be saved.  The Christian God loves His people and even His enemies as He offers them enough time and opportunity to choose Him.

So your god is dead, then?  That would explain why prayers are only "answered" in the context of things that are already possible without the assistance of gods.

If you claim that your god subsequently came back to life, one of the following things apply:

• Jesus didn't 100% die;
  
• Jesus did die 100% and had to be resurrected by a completely different god;
  
• The death scene was faked;
  
• The whole thing is just a story.
  

I choose the bolded option -- There was never a resurrected Jesus.  It's just a fable that's hundreds of years past its "best before" date.  At most there was an insignificant mortal preacher who died and stayed dead.  People who die and stay dead only have power in the imaginations of people who believe in them.  I do not believe in your imaginary friend and I have no use for this "salvation" you speak of.

As for "suffered and died a terrible death" -- three hours on the cross is not particularly impressive for a god.  In the Eddas, it states that Allfather Oðinn spent nine days and nights impaled on Yggdrasil by His own spear.  FFS, *I've* had a hamstring tear that was a 10/10 on the pain scale and lasted more than three hours.  (Don't even get me started on all those years of menstrual cramps...)