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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 14, 2018 at 4:26 pm
(June 14, 2018 at 4:08 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (June 14, 2018 at 2:49 pm)Chad32 Wrote: But aren't they also supposed to be the same person?
The verse itself belies most theories of the Trinity, don't it?
Yes. There's at least as much evidence against the trinity as there is for it, but since Jesus apparently said he has existence before Mary gave birth to him, and Yahweh said in the old testament that there are no gods beside him, it just makes a big mess.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 14, 2018 at 4:42 pm
(June 14, 2018 at 4:26 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (June 14, 2018 at 4:08 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: The verse itself belies most theories of the Trinity, don't it?
Yes. There's at least as much evidence against the trinity as there is for it, but since Jesus apparently said he has existence before Mary gave birth to him, and Yahweh said in the old testament that there are no gods beside him, it just makes a big mess.
Jesus pulls the old "first among equals" trick:
Matthew 28 (KJV)
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
I consider the Trinity to be ESPECIALLY refuted here by Jesus Himself. LOL, His followers need to drag Jesus, kicking and screaming if necessary, into THEIR version of the Trinity.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 15, 2018 at 12:36 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2018 at 1:05 am by Godscreated.)
(June 14, 2018 at 12:09 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (June 13, 2018 at 1:44 am)Godscreated Wrote: Sorry but no. You should be afraid, God is the judge and who He is is the standard, a standard that's perfect and unattainable by people. God can make the willing perfect through the forgiveness grace brings and grace comes through belief in Jesus Christ. I'm only telling you what I know for a fact, what God has revealed and I'm interested in your eternal destination and that it is one with God, I think it would be nice to meet you there.
GC
HERESY ALERT:
John 5 (KJV)
22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
The father is the judge of those who reject Christ in the finial judgement, Christians go before Christ, quit cherry picking and learn what the scriptures actually say, that is if you're smart enough to accomplish this.
GC
(June 14, 2018 at 10:15 am)Shell B Wrote: (June 13, 2018 at 1:44 am)Godscreated Wrote: Sorry but no. You should be afraid, God is the judge and who He is is the standard, a standard that's perfect and unattainable by people. God can make the willing perfect through the forgiveness grace brings and grace comes through belief in Jesus Christ. I'm only telling you what I know for a fact, what God has revealed and I'm interested in your eternal destination and that it is one with God, I think it would be nice to meet you there.
GC
That is definitely preaching and in a disgusting, fear-mongering way.
That is repeating what the Bible says and showing hope of someone looking for the truth.
GC
(June 14, 2018 at 5:09 am)Jehanne Wrote: (June 14, 2018 at 3:09 am)Godscreated Wrote: If you're referring to me I'm not preaching even by the old standards. I do say what I know to be true and try to do it within forum rules.
GC
GC,
How do you know that what you are saying is true?
I reply to what God teaches me and God is complete truth.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 15, 2018 at 7:52 am
GC,
There are people in mental hospitals who believe that the Sun communicates with them. My mom used to work in such a place as a nurse; she says that it was such a sad place to work, because the patients really believed in such things. Why should your beliefs be valued over theirs, just because you are able to function in society?
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 20, 2018 at 12:57 am
Oh no! Pope Francis turns on gay people again saying that gay or lesbian parents aren't legitimate
Quote:Speaking to a delegation of Italy's Family Association in Rome on Saturday, Pope also reiterated the Roman Catholic belief that a true human family is comprised of a man and woman.
But the human family in the image of God, man and woman, is the only one.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/17/europ...index.html
Can you believe that? And he was supposed to be a fluffy pope. Oh well...
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Homosexuality no longer a sin
June 20, 2018 at 5:34 am
Surely two parents in the image of God would both be men!
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