Hopefully intelligent people can read this thread and see the relevant questions and responses and draw their own conclusions. See question about "what is moral truth" by Little monkey and Rhythm.

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(September 15, 2011 at 6:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You know why people keep asking? Because you never defined it. Giving an example of something you feel to be immoral is hardly answering the question of "What is moral truth".

I also gave a definition. (post #157)

Quote:I'm sure you haven't, but that is entirely irrelevant to the post. I'm asking how you would argue from an atheistic worldview that my imaginary friend was in any way "wrong" to behave as he does. Your personal behavior or that of any other atheists have no relevance to the question.

Oh for FUCK SAKE! yet ANOTHER one. (is that two this week?)

Statcrux: You are an orthodox Christian? What on EARTH possessed you to come to an atheist forum and argue with us? Are you under the impression we have never heard your superstitious drivel before?

Can you say 'hubris'?

To deal with your question;THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ATHEIST WORLD VIEW.

An atheist a person who disbelieves in god(s) PERIOD>>>>>>>>>NOTHING ELSE is implied or may be inferred.

Atheism is NOT; a religion,moral code, ideology,world view or club.


If you wish to actually discuss with an open mind,you're welcome.Perhaps begin with admitting your notion of 'atheism' is perhaps little limited,well,wrong in fact. However, I won't hold my breath. I suspect that like most theist apologists we get here, you also suffer from severe cognitive dissonance. That's REALLY tedious,and will annoy some people here,as you may have already gathered.

Unlike most theist forums, we don't ban people for disagreeing. You WILL be banned for preaching.

Quote:If you could reason with religious people there wouldn't be any (Greg House)

When intelligent people see this thread they're embarrassed for our species.

(September 15, 2011 at 7:49 pm)Rhythm Wrote: When intelligent people see this thread they're embarrassed for our species.

Makes me kind of embarrassed to be a member of this species, honestly.

Not me. Makes me glad I wasn't born a retard.

(September 10, 2011 at 9:01 am)StatCrux Wrote: If I were to meet an atheist who presents as a happy, confident, solvent individual, beautiful family, good friends etc (you get the picture) who went on to tell me the secret of his success in life was to lie, cheat, steal and stab others in the back at every opportunity, take no prisoners and give no quarter, be ruthless with strangers and only protect family and loved ones. How could I tell him that his behavior was "wrong" or "evil" using an atheistic worldview? "The tears of strangers are only water" would be an apt motto for this individual.

I would think that a person(christian or atheiest) who lied, cheated and betrayed everyone he met would have neither a beautful family or good friends, not for long anyway. So I think he would probably find out for himself pretty quick.

I think Stat just finished reading MacBeth.

(September 15, 2011 at 7:49 pm)Rhythm Wrote: When intelligent people see this thread they're embarrassed for our species.

Redneck Troll

I honestly cannot inderstand why no-one has tried to deal with the question logically, preferring instead to condemn Christianity (never once mentioned by myself) accuse me of preaching (again faith of any particular religion never mentiond) told me to "fuck off" or othersie generally taken an agressive atheist vs christian standpoint. I personally don't have any interest in name calling, simply an interst in the problem of building a moral concensus when individual subjective morality cannot give a logical reason fo,r or basis to disagree with any other moral viewpoint other than communal sensual gratification. Why won't people engage in a non-confrontational manner?

(September 16, 2011 at 4:06 pm)StatCrux Wrote: I honestly cannot inderstand why no-one has tried to deal with the question logically, preferring instead to condemn Christianity (never once mentioned by myself) accuse me of preaching (again faith of any particular religion never mentiond) told me to "fuck off" or othersie generally taken an agressive atheist vs christian standpoint.

Because, condemning Christianity seems to be logical...