(January 5, 2019 at 6:28 am)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote:

(January 5, 2019 at 6:19 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Maybe you read and didn't understand.  Seems to be a more logical explanation.

Maybe if your bible/handbook made any sense, was non contradictory and was easy to understand, then every reader would come to the same conclusion wouldn't they?

Haven't seen a contradiction to date when read in context.  If you're talking about problems with translations, then yep.  You're not going to get it all if you're entirely dependent on the English language because it wasn't written in English.

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(January 5, 2019 at 6:29 am)GGG Wrote:

(January 5, 2019 at 6:19 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Maybe you read and didn't understand.  Seems to be a more logical explanation.

haha no no i did understand. "and God says - "kill all 40 towns with children  and women and oldmen and make it your own land". It s not too hard to understand

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Reference?

Reference? it was performed by Joshua in old testament. also - kill your own children if their drunk (i'm not talking about what you need to do with gays). if you read it you know it, but i can find you exact place in this book if you want.

(January 5, 2019 at 6:40 am)GGG Wrote: Reference?  it was performed by Joshua in old testament. also - kill your own children if their drunk (i'm not talking about about what you need top do with gays). if you read it you know it, but i can find you exact place in this book if you want.

Sure, exact place would be nice. Appreciated.

(January 4, 2019 at 10:08 am)Grandizer Wrote:

(January 4, 2019 at 10:03 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: I don't think God expects people to be "good little Christians" or be damned.  My understanding of mainstream Christianity is that a) nobody is perfect, and b) salvation comes through faith in Jesus Christ.  Are you sure you've understood the Christian message correctly?

Depends on branch/denomination. Not all mainstream branches/denominations affirm the "once saved, always saved" doctrine. Catholicism is a clear example.

I don't think that's relevant to either the OP or my reply. Certainly one can fail to be saved, but the OP was worried that he couldn't always be a good little Christian, which implies that there is something more to being a Christian than having belief in Christ. If he's saying he doesn't always believe, that's a separate issue, but I don't think that's what he's saying.

(January 3, 2019 at 5:12 pm)DoubtingHerFaith Wrote: Hi, I'm new here, I'm 24 female and I was raised christian and then stopped believing and became atheist and that was too depressing for me at the time so then I was agnostic and researched a little into other religions and then got majorly into New Age, and then came back around to following christianity 3 months ago because New Age was mostly lies and I thought it was demonic and I missed how I felt when I was little and everything was easy and I could just trust in Jesus, except I had forgotten why I stopped believing in the first place and it's because I have mental disorders(bipolar II, borderline pd, depression, introversion) that made it impossible for me to be the good and perfect Christian I wanted to be. and now I'm back in the same position and it seems like God created me with no chance of being able to be good enough just to damn me. and I really really don't want to believe in Christianity. help please

Oh I will be honest though, I'm scared of the prophecies in Revelations about the Mark of the Beast because I can totally see how it could be an RFID chip and I know the possibility of a New World Order, One World Government is definitely the direction we're headed in and merging with technology and it freaks me out. I don't see it as being a good thing for humanity sorry to say and that might upset some people here but I don't trust giving that much power to the most power hungry of us humans. they unfortunately usually don't have benevolent intentions(think Psychopaths....high level psychopaths.....I don't trust the low level ones and definitely not the high level ones lol)

I grew-up on that stuff!  Hey, it was all supposed to happen in the '80s, you know, with the EU being the 10-headed beast, or whatever -- just neglect the fact that the EU now has something like 12 members.  But, in fact, there was a big hoopla in the 70s, when evangelicals thought that Jesus would return; didn't happen, of course.  And, because, the guy is dead!

But, hey, welcome!  As for Revelation, no modern scholar takes that seriously.  Just go out to Google Play or iTunes, and install the free Audible app.  Your first audio book is free, and I would suggest, "New Testament by Professor Bart Ehrman".  It's only 12 hours long (24 lectures), and that will get you up to speed on the last century of modern Biblical scholarship.

(January 5, 2019 at 11:45 am)Jehanne Wrote:

(January 3, 2019 at 5:12 pm)DoubtingHerFaith Wrote: Hi, I'm new here, I'm 24 female and I was raised christian and then stopped believing and became atheist and that was too depressing for me at the time so then I was agnostic and researched a little into other religions and then got majorly into New Age, and then came back around to following christianity 3 months ago because New Age was mostly lies and I thought it was demonic and I missed how I felt when I was little and everything was easy and I could just trust in Jesus, except I had forgotten why I stopped believing in the first place and it's because I have mental disorders(bipolar II, borderline pd, depression, introversion) that made it impossible for me to be the good and perfect Christian I wanted to be. and now I'm back in the same position and it seems like God created me with no chance of being able to be good enough just to damn me. and I really really don't want to believe in Christianity. help please

Oh I will be honest though, I'm scared of the prophecies in Revelations about the Mark of the Beast because I can totally see how it could be an RFID chip and I know the possibility of a New World Order, One World Government is definitely the direction we're headed in and merging with technology and it freaks me out. I don't see it as being a good thing for humanity sorry to say and that might upset some people here but I don't trust giving that much power to the most power hungry of us humans. they unfortunately usually don't have benevolent intentions(think Psychopaths....high level psychopaths.....I don't trust the low level ones and definitely not the high level ones lol)

I grew-up on that stuff!  Hey, it was all supposed to happen in the '80s, you know, with the EU being the 10-headed beast, or whatever -- just neglect the fact that the EU now has something like 12 members.  But, in fact, there was a big hoopla in the 70s, when evangelicals thought that Jesus would return; didn't happen, of course.  And, because, the guy is dead!

But, hey, welcome!  As for Revelation, no modern scholar takes that seriously.  Just go out to Google Play or iTunes, and install the free Audible app.  Your first audio book is free, and I would suggest, "New Testament by Professor Bart Ehrman".  It's only 12 hours long (24 lectures), and that will get you up to speed on the last century of modern Biblical scholarship.

Lots of scholars take it seriously.

What evangelicals thought Jesus would return in the 70s?  Why did they think it?  There is no date given that suggests it would happen then.  The Bible says we won't know the day.

(January 5, 2019 at 2:09 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 5, 2019 at 11:45 am)Jehanne Wrote: I grew-up on that stuff!  Hey, it was all supposed to happen in the '80s, you know, with the EU being the 10-headed beast, or whatever -- just neglect the fact that the EU now has something like 12 members.  But, in fact, there was a big hoopla in the 70s, when evangelicals thought that Jesus would return; didn't happen, of course.  And, because, the guy is dead!

But, hey, welcome!  As for Revelation, no modern scholar takes that seriously.  Just go out to Google Play or iTunes, and install the free Audible app.  Your first audio book is free, and I would suggest, "New Testament by Professor Bart Ehrman".  It's only 12 hours long (24 lectures), and that will get you up to speed on the last century of modern Biblical scholarship.

Lots of scholars take it seriously.

What evangelicals thought Jesus would return in the 70s?  Why did they think it?  There is no date given that suggests it would happen then.  The Bible says we won't know the day.

Wikipedia -- Predictions of Jesus' Second Coming

(January 5, 2019 at 7:03 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 5, 2019 at 6:40 am)GGG Wrote: Reference?  it was performed by Joshua in old testament. also - kill your own children if their drunk (i'm not talking about about what you need top do with gays). if you read it you know it, but i can find you exact place in this book if you want.

Sure, exact place would be nice. Appreciated.

Here your place in this book. and i was wrong - Joshua destroys and kill all people in the name of god not in 40 towns but 60.  - Book of Deuteronomy- chapter 1-7/ btw i need to find you exact place in this book where god kill all egyptian kids? i think anybody who read this book becomes atheist after that

(January 5, 2019 at 3:03 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(January 5, 2019 at 2:09 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Lots of scholars take it seriously.

What evangelicals thought Jesus would return in the 70s?  Why did they think it?  There is no date given that suggests it would happen then.  The Bible says we won't know the day.

Wikipedia -- Predictions of Jesus' Second Coming

Yep, dates those people came up on their own.

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(January 5, 2019 at 3:39 pm)GGG Wrote:

(January 5, 2019 at 7:03 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Sure, exact place would be nice. Appreciated.

Here your place in this book. and i was wrong - Joshua destroys and kill all people in the name of god not in 40 towns but 60.  - Book of Deuteronomy- chapter 1-7/ btw i need to find you exact place in this book where god kill all egyptian kids? i think anybody who read this book becomes atheist after that

Right, can you narrow it down to where it says that specifically?  Or are you saying throughout you were able to total everything and come to a figure of 60?

(January 5, 2019 at 3:51 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 5, 2019 at 3:03 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Wikipedia -- Predictions of Jesus' Second Coming

Yep, dates those people came up on their own.

True, but, keep waiting; Jesus is not coming back, because, he is dead.