Iraq and Afghanistan, just the kind of place you think the US should become in order to keep your toys. Dumbass.

(May 15, 2019 at 9:21 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Iraq and Afghanistan, just the kind of place you think the US should become in order to keep your toys. Dumbass.

It's not about keeping toys.

(May 15, 2019 at 9:32 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 15, 2019 at 9:21 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Iraq and Afghanistan, just the kind of place you think the US should become in order to keep your toys. Dumbass.

It's not about keeping toys.

It's 99.9999% about keeping toys. The rest is bullshit made up to justify keeping toys. The gun culture is resolute in ignoring this.

(May 15, 2019 at 9:15 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(May 15, 2019 at 9:11 am)CDF47 Wrote: In a prolonged urban fight, the Wolverines just may.  Look at Iraq and Afghanistan.  

I do have a problem with that.  We need better safety training for gun owners.  So many people are ignorant to the basics of gun safety.

In a prolonged fight the Wolverines would be in pieces, just like in the movie.

And yes, so many GUN OWNERS "are ignorant to the basics of gun safety." And children die because of that. The more stupid people buy guns the more children will die.

It isn't just children but yea, it makes me sick that especially when children die the selfish right treats the object as if it were breathing and human.

They always cry, "Just keep them out of the wrong hands." Then shit their pants when we agree.

I think substance abusers shouldn't have them. My dad should have had his firearms taken from him. He was an alcoholic and got drunk one day and shot his 38 with me in the room. In doors, in a TINY townhouse. 

I think mentally ill people shouldn't have them. I suffer from depression and anxiety. 

I think domestic abusers shouldn't have them.

I think religious terrorists, including sickos like McVeigh and Roof, should not have them, nor Muslim terrorists.

I think red flag laws can work, taking them away from disturbed teens and or disturbed workers looking to get even in schools or workplaces.

And no, you don't need to be carrying your firearm in public, and yes, when you have it at home it should be locked up in a theft proof gun safe. 

^^^^^^^ Only a delusional person would think those are the right hands. And only a delusional person would read that as a call to ban 100% of all firearms. Prevention is a regulation, not a ban.

(May 15, 2019 at 9:33 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(May 15, 2019 at 9:32 am)CDF47 Wrote: It's not about keeping toys.

It's 99.9999% about keeping toys. The rest is bullshit made up to justify keeping toys. The gun culture is resolute in ignoring this.

I disagree for the reasons I previously posted.

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(May 15, 2019 at 9:44 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 15, 2019 at 9:15 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: In a prolonged fight the Wolverines would be in pieces, just like in the movie.

And yes, so many GUN OWNERS "are ignorant to the basics of gun safety." And children die because of that. The more stupid people buy guns the more children will die.

It isn't just children but yea, it makes me sick that especially when children die the selfish right treats the object as if it were breathing and human.

They always cry, "Just keep them out of the wrong hands." Then shit their pants when we agree.

I think substance abusers shouldn't have them. My dad should have had his firearms taken from him. He was an alcoholic and got drunk one day and shot his 38 with me in the room. In doors, in a TINY townhouse. 

I think mentally ill people shouldn't have them. I suffer from depression and anxiety. 

I think domestic abusers shouldn't have them.

I think religious terrorists, including sickos like McVeigh and Roof, should not have them, nor Muslim terrorists.

I think red flag laws can work, taking them away from disturbed teens and or disturbed workers looking to get even in schools or workplaces.

And no, you don't need to be carrying your firearm in public, and yes, when you have it at home it should be locked up in a theft proof gun safe. 

^^^^^^^ Only a delusional person would think those are the right hands. And only a delusional person would read that as a call to ban 100% of all firearms. Prevention is a regulation, not a ban.

Stay away from our assault weapons. 

By the way, nearly everyone has anxiety to some extent.  It is part of our design.  

I totally disagree with many of the new proposed regulations you make.

(May 15, 2019 at 9:45 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 15, 2019 at 9:33 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: It's 99.9999% about keeping toys. The rest is bullshit made up to justify keeping toys. The gun culture is resolute in ignoring this.

I disagree for the reasons I previously posted.

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(May 15, 2019 at 9:44 am)Brian37 Wrote: It isn't just children but yea, it makes me sick that especially when children die the selfish right treats the object as if it were breathing and human.

They always cry, "Just keep them out of the wrong hands." Then shit their pants when we agree.

I think substance abusers shouldn't have them. My dad should have had his firearms taken from him. He was an alcoholic and got drunk one day and shot his 38 with me in the room. In doors, in a TINY townhouse. 

I think mentally ill people shouldn't have them. I suffer from depression and anxiety. 

I think domestic abusers shouldn't have them.

I think religious terrorists, including sickos like McVeigh and Roof, should not have them, nor Muslim terrorists.

I think red flag laws can work, taking them away from disturbed teens and or disturbed workers looking to get even in schools or workplaces.

And no, you don't need to be carrying your firearm in public, and yes, when you have it at home it should be locked up in a theft proof gun safe. 

^^^^^^^ Only a delusional person would think those are the right hands. And only a delusional person would read that as a call to ban 100% of all firearms. Prevention is a regulation, not a ban.

Stay away from our assault weapons. 

By the way, nearly everyone has anxiety to some extent.  It is part of our design.  

I totally disagree with many of the new proposed regulations you make.

Hey buttwipe, the INVENTOR of the Ar-15 said he never intended on it being used for civilian use. THE FUCKING INVENTOR!

You want a weapon of war, fucking serve. But I don't want my neighborhood turned into a fucking battlefield. We are not landing on the beaches of Normandy.

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(May 15, 2019 at 9:32 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 15, 2019 at 9:21 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Iraq and Afghanistan, just the kind of place you think the US should become in order to keep your toys. Dumbass.

It's not about keeping toys.

You are correct, it is not about keeping toys. However, IT IS ABOUT MONEY! The makers of firearms are like any CEO, their job is to keep their market and expand their market and keep and gain shareholders.  This isn't about rights for the CEOs of these companies, it is about MARKETING!

The makers are pulling the same fear mongering bullshit car companies did when Nadar told them their products suck. But funny that, regulations have made cars safer. But big oil is also selling fear too, trying to avoid the fact that burning fossil fuels is causing global warming.

MARKETING, not rights, but selling fear to people like you so they can keep their profit margins up.

"Consider your man card issued" isn't about rights, it is marketing a fantasy implying the mere ownership of a firearm will magically turn you into Rambo.

^^^^^ That is marketing a serious tool as if it were merely a toy. Firearms are not toys and should not be marketed as if they were.

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Firearms have no magic powers, and more often than not, the user is far more likely to hurt themselves or someone they are familiar with than they would successfully use it against a complete stranger.

And the kids just keep dying.

Quote:America’s Failure to Protect Its Children from School Shootings Is a National Disgrace

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-colum...8h72JvpulU

(May 15, 2019 at 8:57 am)Figbash Wrote:

are you not reading the previous posts?

THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE!

The Group lion was talking about are active duty ARMY POLICE ECT who vow NOT to disarm fellow citizens!

So put a pic of the fire team with the howitzer next to a pic of clinton and ask who will win? That is the conflict.

Lately I've been thinking about how societies deal with inevitability. By "inevitability," I mean something that people will continue to do in that society no matter how hard they regulate it. I think about drug use, something that humans love to do and won't stop just because it's illegal.

Instead of pushing for intense gun control, we launch an aggressive public information campaign, like we did with cigarettes. We have graphic advertisements about what happens when you are careless with your firearms, and what horrors occur when firearms get in the wrong hands. Most of all, this campaign makes the assumption that gun-owners are responsible, and that they're not inherently bad for owning them. We eliminate that lifestyle divide by having these people's distrust of government and love for guns as an inevitability. "You're not a real American if you don't lock your guns," or some crap like that.

I still think some gun control measures should be passed, but only in tandem with efforts like that.