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Another Gun Thread
#41
RE: Another Gun Thread
(May 15, 2019 at 12:09 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Here in Portugal, you have to take a course, have no criminal record, pass a psych eval and renew these from time to time to buy or own a gun. 9 mils are forbidden completely to the public (military grade weaponry).

Gun crimes here are very low.

And you are a dictatorship right? No, well guess that fucks the right wingers argument up doesn't it?

(May 15, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Yeah, but have you done anything about moose v. bicycle deaths? I think not! That makes Portugal hypocritical!!!!!! You have no feelings for those poor mooses, I mean "meese".

When you say, "meese" do you mean "Edwin Meese"?
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#42
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(May 15, 2019 at 12:12 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Yeah, but have you done anything about moose v. bicycle deaths? I think not! That makes Portugal hypocritical!!!!!! You have no feelings for those poor mooses, I mean "meese".

We have. Bicicle folk are a thing here in weekends mostly and laws were made, for cyclists basic wear and traffic laws to keep drivers in check. 1 meter minimum overtake distance, they have to wear at least a helmet.

It has reduced car vs bicicle accidents.
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#43
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Quote:law abiding gun owners do not need to betold. the burden of gun ownership weighs heavily on people's minds when ever they leave their homes or have company over or even worse kids. there is no peace for a lawful gun owner if their guns are not secured. and those are the people a propaganda campaign would most directly influence. It is the monsters who do not care or seek guns to do ill that make it unsafe for everyone else. most of them have guns illegally now, so what are more laws going to do? what will a propaganda campaign do?

I think it's important to distinguished between 'law abiding gun owner' and 'responsible gun owner'.  One can be lawful and still be irresponsible
I linked to a story a little over a month ago in which a woman in the US left a handgun accessible to a four year old who shot and killed his six year old sister.  The mum faced no charges. 

Boru
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#44
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(May 15, 2019 at 1:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:law abiding gun owners do not need to betold. the burden of gun ownership weighs heavily on people's minds when ever they leave their homes or have company over or even worse kids. there is no peace for a lawful gun owner if their guns are not secured. and those are the people a propaganda campaign would most directly influence. It is the monsters who do not care or seek guns to do ill that make it unsafe for everyone else. most of them have guns illegally now, so what are more laws going to do? what will a propaganda campaign do?

I think it's important to distinguished between 'law abiding gun owner' and 'responsible gun owner'.  One can be lawful and still be irresponsible
I linked to a story a little over a month ago in which a woman in the US left a handgun accessible to a four year old who shot and killed his six year old sister.  The mum faced no charges. 

Boru

My almost 3 year old is one of a curious mind. Keeping bleach, assorted torture devices, etc out of reach is a pain as it is. My grandpa gave me his 12 gauge shotgun, horizontal paired barrels. I wouldn't pass the psych exam anyway. So I gave it away to be destroyed, by the cops so they say. I have a galvanized 3/4 inch pipe under my pillow. SO if you walk into my home and me being aware, the pipe works better.
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#45
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(May 15, 2019 at 8:37 am)CDF47 Wrote: The founding fathers made it a right to bear arms that shall not be infringed to prevent tyrannical governments from taking power primarily.  Also, guns are to protect against potential invaders.  They also serve to deter and defend against thugs and criminals that would get guns regardless of the laws.  If the totalitarians in this country ever really went for the guns, I expect there might be a war in this country.  
1. It never has but it has put plenty of them in power 

2. No invader is scared of you pea shooter 

3. So your justifying guns by saying criminals won't follow the law . Think that logic through.

4.Nope because none of you pussies have the balls to start a war because you know your band of weekend warriors would get stomped
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#46
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Militia has always been consistently effective against foreign invasions.

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#47
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(May 15, 2019 at 3:59 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Militia has always been consistently effective against foreign invasions.

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But the "people " would win lol

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#48
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(May 15, 2019 at 1:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:law abiding gun owners do not need to betold. the burden of gun ownership weighs heavily on people's minds when ever they leave their homes or have company over or even worse kids. there is no peace for a lawful gun owner if their guns are not secured. and those are the people a propaganda campaign would most directly influence. It is the monsters who do not care or seek guns to do ill that make it unsafe for everyone else. most of them have guns illegally now, so what are more laws going to do? what will a propaganda campaign do?

I think it's important to distinguished between 'law abiding gun owner' and 'responsible gun owner'.  One can be lawful and still be irresponsible
I linked to a story a little over a month ago in which a woman in the US left a handgun accessible to a four year old who shot and killed his six year old sister.  The mum faced no charges. 

Boru

That doesn't mean that what she did was lawful.  We have federal and state CAP laws, we don't enforce them.
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#49
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Some of your guys views of gun owners is so disingenuously disconnected from reality that it's not even worth having a discussion about it.

(May 15, 2019 at 3:55 pm)Amarok Wrote: 4.Nope because none of you pussies have the balls to start a war because you know your band of weekend warriors would get stomped

How ironic.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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#50
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(May 15, 2019 at 4:15 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: Some of your guys views of gun owners is so disingenuously disconnected from reality that it's not even worth having a discussion about it.

(May 15, 2019 at 3:55 pm)Amarok Wrote: 4.Nope because none of you pussies have the balls to start a war because you know your band of weekend warriors would get stomped

How ironic.
Not really
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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