(August 4, 2019 at 8:15 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(August 4, 2019 at 8:11 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: I'm playing the long game here. Eventually you will run out. Its better than the "just let everyone die" approach that is there at the moment.

Anyone who is willing to trade off their liberties for a little safety will have nor deserve either. Ben Franklin

An unarmed populous - and an orange haired dictator...


Gee what could POSSIBLY go wrong there?

(August 4, 2019 at 8:32 am)onlinebiker Wrote: FBI statistics say the majority of mass shooters are white single males with a history of violrnce and mental health issues.

There is no mention by the FBI of white supremecy being a factor.

Where did you draw that " fact" from?

Quote:The extremist-related murders in 2018 were overwhelmingly linked to right-wing extremists.  Every one of the perpetrators had ties to at least one right-wing extremist movement, although one had recently switched to supporting Islamist extremism. White supremacists were responsible for the great majority of the killings, which is typically the case.

(August 4, 2019 at 8:37 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 4, 2019 at 8:32 am)onlinebiker Wrote: FBI statistics say the majority of mass shooters are white single males with a history of violrnce and mental health issues.

There is no mention by the FBI of white supremecy being a factor.

Where did you draw that " fact" from?

This is a good start:

https://www.adl.org/murder-and-extremism-2018

Quote:The extremist-related murders in 2018 were overwhelmingly linked to right-wing extremists.  Every one of the perpetrators had ties to at least one right-wing extremist movement, although one had recently switched to supporting Islamist extremism. White supremacists were responsible for the great majority of the killings, which is typically the case.

Boru

(August 3, 2019 at 4:52 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(August 3, 2019 at 4:49 pm)Brian37 Wrote: That is what is truly scary about our conservatives. They can have Reagan shot, and their own GOP congressmen shot at a baseball game, and their solution is to keep protecting the profits of corporations instead of putting public safety first.

Got a solution?

(August 4, 2019 at 7:36 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(August 4, 2019 at 3:54 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Yes, take away your toys. You won't like it, the firearms industry will be devistated, but mass murder every few weeks will become much more unlikely.
I suppose you will grumble about your "rights to be able to shoot stuff" but what about the "right not to be killed by some nutter with a gun"?
Are you so insecure that you can't feel "manly" without a weapon?

Good luck with that.


You might want to practice.


Start with trying to take away food from a hungry pitbull.... Work your way up to a hungry badger then a hungry bear.
When you master that - you' re still not quite going to be ready for a gun owning American.

(August 4, 2019 at 8:47 am)Nomad Wrote:

(August 3, 2019 at 4:52 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Got a solution?

Look at Irish gun law and implement it (albeit with more people processing the licence applications).  Our gun laws are a lot more sane and less destructive than yours.

But then you're not interested in actual solutions are you.  They'd only remove your beloved penis substitutes.

(August 4, 2019 at 8:47 am)Nomad Wrote:

(August 3, 2019 at 4:52 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Got a solution?

Look at Irish gun law and implement it (albeit with more people processing the licence applications).  Our gun laws are a lot more sane and less destructive than yours.

But then you're not interested in actual solutions are you.  They'd only remove your beloved penis substitutes.

(August 4, 2019 at 8:37 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 4, 2019 at 8:32 am)onlinebiker Wrote: FBI statistics say the majority of mass shooters are white single males with a history of violrnce and mental health issues.

There is no mention by the FBI of white supremecy being a factor.

Where did you draw that " fact" from?

This is a good start:

https://www.adl.org/murder-and-extremism-2018

Quote:The extremist-related murders in 2018 were overwhelmingly linked to right-wing extremists.  Every one of the perpetrators had ties to at least one right-wing extremist movement, although one had recently switched to supporting Islamist extremism. White supremacists were responsible for the great majority of the killings, which is typically the case.

Boru

Quote:Donald Trump, right-wing terrorism and the rise of the ‘white power’ movement

This incident is not an isolated one. Contrary to the “lone wolf” narrative about right-wing terrorism, the Christchurch massacre was the work of a global right-wing movement that exchanges information and resources, radicalizing and indoctrinating vulnerable white people in the United States, Europe, and elsewhere. This “white power” movement is extremely dangerous: In addition to the recent events in New Zealand, there have been deadly attacks in the U.S., Britain, Canada, Norway and Sweden, among other places.

The overt white supremacy of the white power movement does not remain isolated to that subculture. This hate metastasizes and infects “mainstream” conservative political discourse, leaders and the general public. There are many such examples.

The extreme hostility to nonwhite immigrants espoused by the broader white power movement has been massaged and repackaged into the policy positions of Donald Trump and the Republican Party.

On a near daily basis Fox News host Tucker Carlson summons talking points and narratives from white supremacist and other right-wing hate sites and spoon-feeds that poison to his eager audience. Derrick Black, a former white supremacist and the son of a Ku Klux Klan leader, told CNN last Saturday: “It’s really, really alarming that my family watches Tucker Carlson’s show once and then watches it on the replay because they feel that he is making the white nationalist talking points better than they have, and they’re trying to get some tips on how to advance it.”

The white power movement has done a very good job at disguising how it is really a social movement. Part of this subterfuge is done through the “lone gunman” narrative, where the crimes are then viewed as isolated events. Even after the horrible attacks in Charlottesville, there is still a tendency among journalists to divide these events up from one another. The result is that the Tree of Life synagogue mass shooting in Pittsburgh is reported as somehow being different than the Coast Guard officer’s assassination list and all the weapons he was hoarding to carry out his attacks, and those in turn are different from the New Zealand mosque attacks.

And so on. Read whole article
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/donald-...-movement/