(August 10, 2019 at 1:13 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(August 10, 2019 at 1:10 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Persons have been known to intentionally stick their head into the path fast moving heavy equipment, like the boom on a sailing ship, to be battered to death by a blow to the back of the head as a way to commit suicide.

Not too many situations where there is heavy equipment or ships in a prison cell where one is under suicide watch.

Do we know how Epstein died?

People have been known to successfully commit suicide by ramming their heads into the wall even without a running start.

It’s hard to prevent a determined person who knows a little of human anatomy from committing suicide unless you put him in a straitjacket and padded cell.   Even then people have been known to commit suicide by biting off their own tongue and chocking on it.

(August 10, 2019 at 1:16 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Do we know how Epstein died?

People have been known to successfully commit suicide by ramming their heads into the wall even without a running start.

It’s hard to prevent a determined person who knows a little of human anatomy from committing suicide unless you put him in a straitjacket and padded cell.

Not as yet, we don't.  My money is on a visitor having smuggled something in on which Epstein overdosed.

Boru

(August 10, 2019 at 1:05 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: You can't help yourself, can you?

Tell us how this coincides with the NFL or the NRA.

Ok tell me right here, right now you have PROOF that his death was a result of a high profile rich famous person giving orders to murder him?

I am NOT claiming others who were as famous who went to his parties, were not in on the sex trafficking. I am merely saying child molesters are already hated, so there would be no need to give an order for an already condemned man.

I want his circle exposed like anyone else, anyone who participated. I am simply saying if a rat is already on fire, and that rat has no credibility, even if you are a rat yourself, why bring attention to yourself by giving an order?

Even outside child molestation, how many robberies, murders, and even the Mafia, have you seen the charged be left out hung to dry, when the collaborators know even squealing wont be found credible?

That is all I am getting at.

If you would learn to read you would know I said hopefully there will be a good investigation done.

Your maniac ass said I claimed to have proof.

There aren’t enough puppets and crayons to get you to learn to read what’s there and not what you think is there.

(August 10, 2019 at 1:43 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: If you would learn to read you would know I said hopefully there will be a good investigation done.

Your maniac ass said I claimed to have proof.

There aren’t enough puppets and crayons to get you to learn to read what’s there and not what you think is there.

If you are not claiming or implying that high profile people gave an order, then the "assisted" or "allowed" claims are just that.  

I did read what you wrote, but I hate this ambiguous crap because it opens the door for conspiracy theorists.

YES NO SHIT, it is possible that someone looked the other way, or he was "assisted" IE "MURDERED' by another prisoner or guard. It is still far more likely he didn't want to get raped or abused himself, combined with a man like that whom is used to his independence would not want to spend the rest of his life in prison even if he could survive.

What is highly unlikely is that an outside political force gave an order. There would be no need, because child molesters already lack credibility and are already hated. So any act outside his own voluntary suicide would have been most likely an independent act. I lean to him doing it by himself and found a window, no matter how small.

(August 10, 2019 at 1:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(August 10, 2019 at 1:43 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: If you would learn to read you would know I said hopefully there will be a good investigation done.

Your maniac ass said I claimed to have proof.

There aren’t enough puppets and crayons to get you to learn to read what’s there and not what you think is there.

If you are not claiming or implying that high profile people gave an order, then the "assisted" or "allowed" claims are just that.  

I did read what you wrote, but I hate this ambiguous crap because it opens the door for conspiracy theorists.

YES NO SHIT, it is possible that someone looked the other way, or he was "assisted" IE "MURDERED' by another prisoner or guard. It is still far more likely he didn't want to get raped or abused himself, combined with a man like that whom is used to his independence would not want to spend the rest of his life in prison even if he could survive.

What is highly unlikely is that an outside political force gave an order. There would be no need, because child molesters already lack credibility and are already hated. So any act outside his own voluntary suicide would have been most likely an independent act. I lean to him doing it by himself and found a window, no matter how small.

Really, quickly - why is it that you're allowed to use words and phrases such as 'highly likely' or 'I lean to' or 'far more likely';, but when arewethereyet uses similar phrases, it's 'opening the door to conspiracy theorists'?

Boru

(August 10, 2019 at 1:59 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 10, 2019 at 1:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote: If you are not claiming or implying that high profile people gave an order, then the "assisted" or "allowed" claims are just that.  

I did read what you wrote, but I hate this ambiguous crap because it opens the door for conspiracy theorists.

YES NO SHIT, it is possible that someone looked the other way, or he was "assisted" IE "MURDERED' by another prisoner or guard. It is still far more likely he didn't want to get raped or abused himself, combined with a man like that whom is used to his independence would not want to spend the rest of his life in prison even if he could survive.

What is highly unlikely is that an outside political force gave an order. There would be no need, because child molesters already lack credibility and are already hated. So any act outside his own voluntary suicide would have been most likely an independent act. I lean to him doing it by himself and found a window, no matter how small.

Really, quickly - why is it that you're allowed to use words and phrases such as 'highly likely' or 'I lean to' or 'far more likely';, but when arewethereyet uses similar phrases, it's 'opening the door to conspiracy theorists'?

Boru

What is wrong with law of probability? Works fantastic in science.

" Monkeys  could fly out of my butt"......  Technically true considering nobody has lived the entire future of the universe. But how much time do you waste considering that nonsense?

It is HIGHLY UNLIKELY for even those in on the ring, needed to give an order to have him murdered knowing that he had no credibility, he wasn't going to get any immunity and he was going to be a target from both prisoners and guards even if he had made it through trial.

That is not saying the investigation ends with his death, but merely that he didn't need any outside the prison help to be hated. 

The investigation will still continue, and lawsuits from the accused against his estate. Other rats may be exposed in the future, but all I am saying is even those rats would have no incentive to bring more attention to themselves, because interactions between the inside and outside are recorded or documented. So if he was murdered, the most likely event would be an INDEPENDENT person on the inside who simply hated child molesters.  But again, I'd say not even that. I'd say he was merely afraid of getting beaten up or raped himself, combined with losing his freedom.

arewethereyet:
That event covers many high-powered asses.

High-powered asses, get away with the most shit!  And frankly, that just stinks!

I don't think simply entertaining the possibility that an informant might have been killed in custody is conspiratorial thinking. The mob, cartels, and gangs order hits on prisoners from the outside often enough.
Epstein named some prominent and extremely powerful men, and truth be told, cover-ups do happen.

Personally, I find it a little odd that he was taken off of suicide watch. Still not clear as to when or why that happened.
At the very least, it lends credence to the possibility that he was allowed to commit suicide.

(August 10, 2019 at 1:59 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 10, 2019 at 1:52 pm)Brian37 Wrote: If you are not claiming or implying that high profile people gave an order, then the "assisted" or "allowed" claims are just that.  

I did read what you wrote, but I hate this ambiguous crap because it opens the door for conspiracy theorists.

YES NO SHIT, it is possible that someone looked the other way, or he was "assisted" IE "MURDERED' by another prisoner or guard. It is still far more likely he didn't want to get raped or abused himself, combined with a man like that whom is used to his independence would not want to spend the rest of his life in prison even if he could survive.

What is highly unlikely is that an outside political force gave an order. There would be no need, because child molesters already lack credibility and are already hated. So any act outside his own voluntary suicide would have been most likely an independent act. I lean to him doing it by himself and found a window, no matter how small.

Really, quickly - why is it that you're allowed to use words and phrases such as 'highly likely' or 'I lean to' or 'far more likely';, but when arewethereyet uses similar phrases, it's 'opening the door to conspiracy theorists'?

Boru

Because he's special.

But you knew that.