(August 17, 2019 at 7:33 am)Belaqua Wrote:

(August 17, 2019 at 7:26 am)wyzas Wrote: Stop playing the victim.

I am not a victim. 

No one here is a victim. 

If anything has been victimized, it's things like honesty, fairness, clear thought. Little things like that.

Says the victim.

(August 17, 2019 at 7:21 am)Belaqua Wrote:

(August 17, 2019 at 7:17 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, it's at least moderately nonsensical to take the position that something with which you disagree is 'over the top'.  This is a tacit admission on your part that the opinion should never have been expressed to begin with.

Boru

It's not a tacit anything.

It's a clear assertion that the over-the-top statement is over the top. The statement is false, exaggerated, and bigoted.

If 'false, exaggerated and bigoted' statements upset you this much, maybe the Internet isn't the place for you.  I respectfully suggest that you look into the use of placards and sandwich boards in the public square.

Boru

(August 17, 2019 at 7:33 am)Belaqua Wrote:

(August 17, 2019 at 7:26 am)wyzas Wrote: Stop playing the victim.

I am not a victim. 

No one here is a victim. 

If anything has been victimized, it's things like honesty, fairness, clear thought. Little things like that.

And you are the primary perp. I get a little stroppy with dishonest people.

(August 17, 2019 at 8:09 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 17, 2019 at 7:21 am)Belaqua Wrote: It's not a tacit anything.

It's a clear assertion that the over-the-top statement is over the top. The statement is false, exaggerated, and bigoted.

If 'false, exaggerated and bigoted' statements upset you this much, maybe the Internet isn't the place for you.  I respectfully suggest that you look into the use of placards and sandwich boards in the public square.

Boru

Your interpretation that I'm upset isn't accurate. My blood pressure is fine. I'm having a lovely summer vacation. 

I would like to argue against over-the-top statements, on a forum where people argue for or against things. Is this something I shouldn't do? 

If bigotry is bad, and something we should oppose, then we should oppose it.

(August 18, 2019 at 8:37 am)Belaqua Wrote:

(August 17, 2019 at 8:09 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If 'false, exaggerated and bigoted' statements upset you this much, maybe the Internet isn't the place for you.  I respectfully suggest that you look into the use of placards and sandwich boards in the public square.

Boru

Your interpretation that I'm upset isn't accurate. My blood pressure is fine. I'm having a lovely summer vacation. 

I would like to argue against over-the-top statements, on a forum where people argue for or against things. Is this something I shouldn't do? 

If bigotry is bad, and something we should oppose, then we should oppose it.

I think religion and theists demonstrate bigotry.

(August 18, 2019 at 8:57 am)wyzas Wrote:

(August 18, 2019 at 8:37 am)Belaqua Wrote: Your interpretation that I'm upset isn't accurate. My blood pressure is fine. I'm having a lovely summer vacation. 

I would like to argue against over-the-top statements, on a forum where people argue for or against things. Is this something I shouldn't do? 

If bigotry is bad, and something we should oppose, then we should oppose it.

I think religion and theists demonstrate bigotry.

Sometimes they do, most certainly.

And when they do, we should call it out. As when anyone else does, including atheists.

(August 18, 2019 at 8:57 am)wyzas Wrote:

(August 18, 2019 at 8:37 am)Belaqua Wrote: Your interpretation that I'm upset isn't accurate. My blood pressure is fine. I'm having a lovely summer vacation. 

I would like to argue against over-the-top statements, on a forum where people argue for or against things. Is this something I shouldn't do? 

If bigotry is bad, and something we should oppose, then we should oppose it.

I think religion and theists demonstrate bigotry.

Though not in the absolute sense, but this is true in a lot of cases.

Case in point:

Discrimination Against Atheists

(August 18, 2019 at 6:51 pm)Belaqua Wrote:

(August 18, 2019 at 8:57 am)wyzas Wrote: I think religion and theists demonstrate bigotry.

Sometimes they do, most certainly.

And when they do, we should call it out. As when anyone else does, including atheists.

Most of the time they do. And they don't call it out on themselves, not where I live.

(August 18, 2019 at 7:51 pm)wyzas Wrote: Most of the time they do. 

How do you measure this? How do you demonstrate that it's true?

"Religion and theists" is a very broad category. Are you including Jains? Pure Land Buddhists? They're not theists exactly, but they are often religious. 

Or are you only talking about people near you?

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(August 18, 2019 at 7:30 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Though not in the absolute sense, but this is true in a lot of cases.

Case in point:

Discrimination Against Atheists

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I find it odd that people want to change the subject, back to their own victimization.

Is it not true that atheists can write bigoted sentences? That's the thread topic.

(August 18, 2019 at 8:00 pm)Belaqua Wrote:

(August 18, 2019 at 7:51 pm)wyzas Wrote: Most of the time they do. 

How do you measure this? How do you demonstrate that it's true?

"Religion and theists" is a very broad category. Are you including Jains? Pure Land Buddhists? They're not theists exactly, but they are often religious. 

Or are you only talking about people near you?

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(August 18, 2019 at 7:30 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Though not in the absolute sense, but this is true in a lot of cases.

Case in point:

Discrimination Against Atheists

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I find it odd that people want to change the subject, back to their own victimization.

Is it not true that atheists can write bigoted sentences? That's the thread topic.

Ok, so this is specifically about what atheists say, not "over the top" remarks in general.