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RE: Gun Control Crowd Safer? - and a control group
January 20, 2020 at 8:02 pm
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(January 20, 2020 at 7:54 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (January 20, 2020 at 7:00 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Your definition of "military type weapon" is way too loose for any gun owner.
My AR-15 took 6 deer this season. It's design allows even my 110 lbs sister to comfortably fire it.
Let's go through your posessions - and we will see how much you "need" those...
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Snd I see you didn't address the OP...
You just trotted out some kids.....
And ones that haf nothing to do with this rally...
Boru’s post had everything to do with the OP. The point is the rally is stupid and unnecessary in the first place. As far as your “experiment” goes, one question is: can it be repeated? What if we repeated this experiment twelve times, and nine out of the twelve times a person from the “gun” group shot someone? Data of that nature paints a completely different picture, doesn’t it? You haven’t proved anything, and your grasp on how researchers collect and analyze data is rather tenuous if you think it does.
Absolutely.
Gun shows in Michigan routinely have between 10 and 20,000 people go through them.
While you are not supposed to carry in a gun show - it's common knowledge that at least half the people there are carrying. Not to mention that there are guns and ammo EVERYWHERE...if somebody decided to kill some people - it would happen.
There is over a 100 shows a year at different venues - and the have been going on for over 75 years.
There has never been an incident to my knowledge - and I have asked.
This wasn't the exception.
It's the rule.
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RE: Gun Control Crowd Safer? - and a control group
January 20, 2020 at 8:05 pm
Quote:Absolutely.
Gun shows in Michigan routinely have between 10 and 20,000 people go through them.
Example fallacy sill
Quote:While you are not supposed to carry in a gun show - it's common knowledge that at least half the people there are carrying. Not to mention that there are gins and ammo EVERYWHERE...if somebody decided to kill some people - it would happen.
False conclusion that's not replication
Quote:There is over a 100 shows a year at different venues - and the have been going on for over 75 years.
Same problem
Quote:There has never been an incident to my knowledge - and I have asked.
Same problem
Quote:This wasn't the exception.
The broad category is an exception.
Quote:It's the rule.
Not established
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RE: Gun Control Crowd Safer? - and a control group
January 20, 2020 at 8:05 pm
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Who expects a gun show to turn into a shootout? What does the fact that they don't have to do with public safety declarations backed by law enforcement intel?
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RE: Gun Control Crowd Safer? - and a control group
January 20, 2020 at 8:06 pm
(January 20, 2020 at 8:05 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Who expects a gun show to turn into a shootout? I know it's amazing he doesn't get contexts for violence
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RE: Gun Control Crowd Safer? - and a control group
January 20, 2020 at 8:07 pm
(January 20, 2020 at 7:00 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (January 20, 2020 at 6:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It seems like a better question would be, ‘Why are law-abiding gun owners shitting themselves over proposed laws that aren’t going to affect them?’
According to the article, the three proposed laws are universal background checks, banning military-style rifles, and temporarily removing guns from the possession of people determined to be a danger to themselves or others.
If you’re law abiding, you won’t have any trouble passing a background check.
If you’re law abiding, why do you need a military type weapon (to be fair, the article wasn’t specific about what this would entail)?
If you’re law abiding, how do you reasonably object to taking guns away from someone who posted about shooting up a school?
Boru Your definition of "military type weapon" is way too loose for any gun owner.
My AR-15 took 6 deer this season. It's design allows even my 110 lbs sister to comfortably fire it.
Let's go through your posessions - and we will see how much you "need" those...
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Snd I see you didn't address the OP...
You just trotted out some kids.....
And ones that haf nothing to do with this rally...
1. I didn’t define ‘military type weapon’. I took exception to the article for not defining it.
2. I did address the OP.
3. I never mentioned kids.
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RE: Gun Control Crowd Safer? - and a control group
January 20, 2020 at 8:07 pm
(January 20, 2020 at 8:05 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Who expects a gun show to turn into a shootout?
Who expects their flight to terminate in the 72nd floor of the WTC?
Nobody?
Till it happens.
Are we going to quit flying now?
Or is it still the safest way to travel?
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January 20, 2020 at 8:08 pm
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I'm sure that he does. I'm entirely certain that OLB is fully cognizant of how he shits the bed. I just don't understand why he would.
Where did you want to go with the above? Comparing a hypothetical gunshow shootout with an act of terrorism that no one expected, which ended up happening, and then claimed hundreds of thousands of lives, all told?
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RE: Gun Control Crowd Safer? - and a control group
January 20, 2020 at 8:08 pm
People have been challenging our government without guns from Day One.
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RE: Gun Control Crowd Safer? - and a control group
January 20, 2020 at 8:09 pm
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Quote:Who expects their flight to terminate in the 72nd floor of the WTC?
Red herring
Quote:Nobody?
Till it happens.
WTF are you even on 
Quote:Are we going to quit flying now?
Or is it still the safest way to travel?
False comparison
(January 20, 2020 at 8:08 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I'm sure that he does. I'm entirely certain that OLB is fully cognizant of how he shits the bed. I just don't understand why he would.
Where did you want to go with the above? Comparing a hypothetical gunshow shootout with an act of terrorism that no one expected, which ended up happening, and then claimed hundreds of thousands of lives, all told? I know right this comparison is nutty 
(January 20, 2020 at 8:08 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: People have been challenging our government without guns from Day One. And guns are not the solution quite the opposite
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RE: Gun Control Crowd Safer? - and a control group
January 20, 2020 at 8:31 pm
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The whole argument about car accidents is so disingenuous. It's like the argument that vending machines are more dangerous than Sharks. Its technically true that more people are killed by vending machines than sharks. But it's only because people interact with vending machines more often, and vending machines serve a purpose that people actually interact with on a daily basis.
Also kind of funny how the pro-gun politicians never seem to forego security and just pick up an AR-15 themselves! Not to mention refusing to allow armed people coming into their events. Even the NRA! Gee I wonder why that is.
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