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[Serious] Care to Seriously Consider the Existance of a Creator (God)?
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(April 26, 2020 at 12:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote:(April 26, 2020 at 11:56 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: OK, give us FACTS (with supporting evidence) On the contrary, matter is subject to the laws of physics and chemistry and those laws drive matter to become organized. For example, large clouds of gas (light years across) will condense under the action of gravity, forming more organized stars. There are a great many physical systems that will spontaneously organize, usually dirven by some sort of energy difference between their initial state and their final state, although systems that are far from equilibrium also tend to show large scale organization. No consciousness is required for this to happen: it comes from the fact that matter is interactive with other matter, not inert. Any chemistry class can convince you this is the case.
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Home (April 26, 2020 at 2:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote: To deny our bodies, for example. were designed, is to imply we are the result of uncountable accidents all happening at the right time, in the right order. "Right order" you say? What kind of an asshole would design this? Does this look like right order to you?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
(April 26, 2020 at 2:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote: I have to wait to post science graphics, since I'm new here look forward to it! That is not claimed, nor is it remotely how anything happened. There is nothing random about abiogenesis or evolution. That is merely a lie your pastor tells you to placate any questions you may have. RE: Care to Seriously Consider the Existance of a Creator (God)?
April 26, 2020 at 4:48 pm
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(April 26, 2020 at 4:33 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:______________________________________________________________(April 26, 2020 at 2:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote: I have to wait to post science graphics, since I'm new here look forward to it!That is not claimed, nor is it remotely how anything happened. Then tell us HOW they assembled themselves so very well ...on their own! (April 26, 2020 at 4:25 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:------------------------------------------------------------------------(April 26, 2020 at 2:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote: To deny our bodies, for example. were designed, is to imply we are the result of uncountable accidents all happening at the right time, in the right order."Right order" you say? What kind of an asshole would design this? Does this look like right order to you? Do you know what causes such rare things- or implying they are the norm? Many things can cause such accidents, but I know that's over YOUR head!
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(April 26, 2020 at 4:48 pm)theMadJW Wrote:(April 26, 2020 at 4:25 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: "Right order" you say? What kind of an asshole would design this? Does this look like right order to you?------------------------------------------------------------------------ So you admit it's an accident but when its "right order" then its God.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
Quote:I have to wait to post science graphics, since I'm new here look forward to it!And you will miss use them Quote:To deny our bodies, for example. were designed, is to imply we are the result of uncountable accidents all happening at the right time, in the right order.Non sequitur mixed with arguments from credulity
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Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
So, if you claim to understand something, having facts to back you up- that's being egotistical?
C'mon, me friend! You KNOW better!
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RE: Care to Seriously Consider the Existance of a Creator (God)?
April 26, 2020 at 4:58 pm
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Quote:Do you know what causes such rare things- or implying they are the norm?Mutations Quote:Many things can cause such accidents, but I know that's over YOUR head!You didn't address his point Quote:Then tell us HOW they assembled themselves so very well ...on their own!Argument from ignorance (April 26, 2020 at 4:57 pm)theMadJW Wrote: So, if you claim to understand something, having facts to back you up- that's being egotistical?Strawman You're just full of fallacies
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM |
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