Posts: 11342
Threads: 29
Joined: December 8, 2019
Reputation:
14
RE: US police brutality item
June 3, 2020 at 9:13 am
Quote:I guess we don't need courts when we have the all-knowing herd of popular opinion....
Court exist to pass sentences. But the idea that they are the only ones capable of determining guilt is absurd
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
![[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=cdn.shopify.com%2Fs%2Ffiles%2F1%2F0630%2F5310%2F3332%2Fproducts%2FCanada_Flag.jpg%3Fv%3D1646203843)
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
Posts: 12228
Threads: 125
Joined: January 11, 2010
Reputation:
45
RE: US police brutality item
June 3, 2020 at 11:06 am
(June 3, 2020 at 9:13 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Quote:I guess we don't need courts when we have the all-knowing herd of popular opinion....
Court exist to pass sentences. But the idea that they are the only ones capable of determining guilt is absurd But they are the only ones capable of doling out criminal justice. If, say, Chauvin was accused of killing his wife’s paramour and throwing the body in a wood chipper, and there weren’t multiple eyewitnesses who saw it (not to mention multiple videos of the incident), you might have a point about the court of public opinion. But we do have witnesses and multiple videos of the incident and the minutes prior and it paints a very clear picture of his guilt.
And, just for reference, here’s a video from Shaun deconstructing the case of Trayvon Martin (with a specific focus on George Zimmerman’s known actions) and, in the end, contrasting that with the killing of LaVoy Finicum, and it all seems very relevant to Biker’s posturing.
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.
![[Image: harmlesskitchen.png]](https://i.postimg.cc/yxR97P23/harmlesskitchen.png)
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
Posts: 9538
Threads: 410
Joined: October 3, 2018
Reputation:
17
RE: US police brutality item
June 3, 2020 at 11:26 am
(June 3, 2020 at 11:06 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: (June 3, 2020 at 9:13 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Court exist to pass sentences. But the idea that they are the only ones capable of determining guilt is absurd But they are the only ones capable of doling out criminal justice. If, say, Chauvin was accused of killing his wife’s paramour and throwing the body in a wood chipper, and there weren’t multiple eyewitnesses who saw it (not to mention multiple videos of the incident), you might have a point about the court of public opinion. But we do have witnesses and multiple videos of the incident and the minutes prior and it paints a very clear picture of his guilt.
And, just for reference, here’s a video from Shaun deconstructing the case of Trayvon Martin (with a specific focus on George Zimmerman’s known actions) and, in the end, contrasting that with the killing of LaVoy Finicum, and it all seems very relevant to Biker’s posturing.
0
You have an opinion piece video - and you believe that is truth - rather thsn the 12 men and women who saw all of the state and defense evidence and voted for acquital.
The mob is always going to say the cop is guilty and there is no such thing as justifiable defense.
As long as it is popular.
And I am always going to say "I don't know" - because I did not see the admissible evidence.
....
Posts: 12228
Threads: 125
Joined: January 11, 2010
Reputation:
45
RE: US police brutality item
June 3, 2020 at 11:52 am
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2020 at 11:54 am by Rev. Rye.)
Justifiable defense is a thing, but, frankly, what I’ve seen in the videos of Floyd’s death ain’t it. This could just be me, but if someone’s trying to kill you and the only thing you can do to save yourself is kill them, you take them out as quickly as possible.
What happened with George Floyd, according to all available records, from the prosecutor’s statement of probable cause to the videos of his death to the autopsy reports... it wasn’t that. It was a case of police brutality that started with a counterfeit $20 bill and ended with a death that, honestly, would have made this seem downright humane:
(Note: I’m not saying Chauvin is a Nazi like Ed Norton’s character, just comparing and contrasting two undeniably brutal deaths.)
Killing in self-defense is justifiable. Torture like this never is.
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
Posts: 67293
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: US police brutality item
June 3, 2020 at 11:55 am
I would avoid referring to the martin case's jury if I were hoping to deflect concerns that there might be intentional and systemic bias in us courts.
That's just me, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 9538
Threads: 410
Joined: October 3, 2018
Reputation:
17
RE: US police brutality item
June 3, 2020 at 12:46 pm
(June 3, 2020 at 11:55 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I would avoid referring to the martin case's jury if I were hoping to deflect concerns that there might be intentional and systemic bias in us courts.
That's just me, lol.
Anyone who "lol"s their own post is automatically registered as a egocentric git.
Posts: 67293
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: US police brutality item
June 3, 2020 at 12:47 pm
Would you prefer that I use emojis to indicate a smile and a lighthearted tone? 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 46417
Threads: 540
Joined: July 24, 2013
Reputation:
109
RE: US police brutality item
June 3, 2020 at 1:09 pm
(June 3, 2020 at 12:46 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (June 3, 2020 at 11:55 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I would avoid referring to the martin case's jury if I were hoping to deflect concerns that there might be intentional and systemic bias in us courts.
That's just me, lol.
Anyone who "lol"s their own post is automatically registered as a egocentric git.
Anyone who responds to a thoughtful post about a biased justice system by focusing on the ‘lol’ has lost the argument.
Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Posts: 9538
Threads: 410
Joined: October 3, 2018
Reputation:
17
RE: US police brutality item
June 3, 2020 at 1:18 pm
(June 3, 2020 at 1:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (June 3, 2020 at 12:46 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Anyone who "lol"s their own post is automatically registered as a egocentric git.
Anyone who responds to a thoughtful post about a biased justice system by focusing on the ‘lol’ has lost the argument.
Boru
You may think it's a thoughtful post.
I just see his bias hanging out like a sore dick.
Posts: 67293
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: US police brutality item
June 3, 2020 at 1:32 pm
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2020 at 1:34 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You talk about my bias..which is against police brutality and the abuse of our system by it's own agents, and the abuse of our own people by that system through it's agents..as though it were something that would shame me.
It doesn't. I'm proud to be an american. I hope that one day you too will find your inner american.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
|
