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(June 5, 2020 at 9:23 am)Sal Wrote: Your reply was a complete dodge.
I'll ask again: Where Adam & Eve innocent before they ate of the Tree of Knowledge?
Sure. They were "innocent". They have not yet rejected God's Love. But they also have not chosen yet to eat from the Tree of Life. Decided to Love God for who He is.
So do you then agree that before they ate the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge that they did not know good from evil, because they were innocent?
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
Yes. You have agreed to your crimes. Crimes against your wife, your children, the children of others, the parents of those children, the members of your church, the pastors of your church.
And you are proud of that scumbaggery that you carried out.
(June 6, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:When are you going to tell us all about this "crisis" you think I am having?
Nope. That is a link to a post in this thread. Please tell us all what "crisis" it is that you think I have.
(June 6, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
Quote:You really are running away from that like the coward you truly are.
Yep. There are many "cowards".
And you would lead them if you were not such a coward.
(June 6, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: The only one running was you from the assault of the pastor on me in SGU. Why have you not yet linked us? Still "running"?
Oh, do you really want me to cite that as well? You know I can. I have no issue demonstrating how colossal a wingnut you are.
TBH, I have sufficient empathy NOT to expose all your excesses, but I am up for the challenge if you provoke me.
(June 6, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: And of course you running from facing your "friends"/the pastors about having "misused" you for their agenda.
And then you running in failing to tell them to face me.
Those are not friends of mine. Because of your insanity, I had cause to communicate with them to determine the truth of the matter. That is all.
(June 6, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: And then of course:
Your "friends"/pastors running from facing me here.
They are not members here dumbass.
(June 6, 2020 at 10:15 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: So if you stop with your running you can bring us something? Cowardice is also an evil spirit not sitting well in your soul. Seems it was him that forced you to try and pin "cowardice" on me?
You pinned it on yourself, coward. I will bring you something when you identify this "crisis" you claim I have.
Pony up. Make with the claimed "crisis".
Or you could fuck right off like the coward you are.
The courage of faith seems of no avail to you, does it?
June 7, 2020 at 1:07 am (This post was last modified: June 7, 2020 at 1:08 am by Johanabrahams.
Edit Reason: clarity
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The Absence of God
Many wondered about this. Why is God not present in the World?
Just because the humans are their own gods. They don't want a God. Because if there is a God then they have to obey Him as God. In the OT it was easy. Everyone had their gods. Israel just had the Living God. So they always had the advantage. Except of course when they rejected Him. Then they were on the disciplining side. Without Him. And without Him means that they are on their own. And as a vulnerable nation that meant for them "on the loosing side".
Life moves on. God is actually a God with much more Love than being The God of a Nation. He is a Father. A Father has His own Family. But this Father disciplines in Love. Meaning there is no such thing as punishment. Because there is with God no laws to disobey. Laws are for the humans that do not have Love. They have to force obedience. With the fear of punishment. And you saw the disaster in Die Herberg when fear rules.
So God taught me Love and Wisdom. As I need to have this Ability when i am a Mother of His Children.
The humans like their "god lives". They like to be honored as "gods". And thus you find all the "pastors" being gods or rulers too. Not wanting to give over their position to the Real God. Which is now their Father. So human. And this is exactly how you also live. Society needs bosses. And they need fear and punishment. Which does not exist in God's Realm. He does not rule in fear and punishment. But in Love and Wisdom.
You will see that in my forum on Delphi. That is linked in my profile. I specifically mentioned in my introduction there 13 years ago when I started it. And you will experience that in my Facebook page and my Twitter page too. And everywhere that I have an account. There is no fear ruling. Because there are no laws. Therefore there is no punishment.
Eph. 2
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
There is thus no "bans" or "blocking" or anything like that. I exist now 13 years on the internet like that. So just as in Die Herberg nobody can tell me it is not possible.
You will find the same kind of ruling in Solomon's Reign in the Bible.
Proverbs 8
13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:*n4
21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
But of course it was not perfect because Wisdom was given Him as a gift. In Christians they get it as part of their Godly Character when they are Grown up. Everybody knows that there will come a day that Jesus rules. Well the Day is here.
Jesus is getting born now everywhere that I move. Some accept and some do not. Those that do not will for ever try to be Good like God. It is impossible. You have to be born God to be Good like God. And in this case you have to be Gown up to Rule in Wisdom. Which is of course the better Ruling. And the Better always takes over the "bad". Good always wins evil. That everybody knows.
Where Love and Wisdom rules there is no fear for punishment. Because there is no need for punishment. Love excludes laws and punishment. Love is everlasting while relationships built on fear and punishment is not. In fact they are mostly non existent. As you are seeing in the world. No matter what you try. Not even marriages last for ever. But it was given by "God" to last? Those that do last has long left the realm of human inferior love and is just staying together for the sake of themselves having a more comfortable live. Selfishness.
And the same is the reality here. This forum like any other exists for the benefit of self. And it is ruled by laws. Which have the power of fear for punishment. And this is of course rejection done in bans. Those who have some meager kind of existence together fear to lose the "meager" existence. And the live created here is a fake live. Just like Die Herberg. It is all for the sake of everybody's own benefit. A selfish situation. As those in Die Herberg were not there because of Love for the Children but because of Love for the money. And the "harsh and unfair principal" needed the "bad tempered patrons". And they needed him. All living together in evil. A Creation of God - according to the "pastors". And all "happily" enjoying their selfish lives until God pulled down their fake religion.
In God's Forums there is no selfishness. Their existence is for the sake of the other people. Everyone Lives Unselfish in God's Love towards one another. They are all part of God's Family. With a Father and Mothers and being Brothers and Sisters together. Where the Children grows up to become Mothers too. And then start ruling in Love and Wisdom where they are.
And this is where the bans come in. Why I am mostly banned by all. Because the bosses enjoy their evil ruling in fear and punishment by the laws that they create. But obviously there is no God present here. God is only present in the Ruling of Love and Wisdom. Which is to be experienced on God's Forums where He Rules Himself as the Father and Husband of all.
Everybody can change of course. They can give up their fear and punishment for Family Life in Love. Which is of course the Ultimate. But the bosses like their honor given them by all in establishing them as their "mod" or whatever. And then everybody is "looking up" to them to keep their society "healthy". And as result this is killing Relationships. Because where one rules over others there exists only slaves and slave drivers.
God is not into slavery. He is into Love. As a Father. And in His Love He is standing up against all slavery. As He has done always. And of course also in forums. Just revealing the situation for what it is. This you will see clearly in the SSF. Pyrrho there was confronted with this too. After we solved the situation in Robertson. Which the other forums were too foolish to do. As they were too busy with themselves and their evil situation in "slavery". And Pyrrho had to decide. But seems the force of the others forcing him to be the "boss" was his downfall. And he had to ban me too. But in doing so banned Love and Wisdom ruling. And he is stuck with being the "boss" there. Ruling the "slaves". And evil situation. And he created his own "hell". And is suffering the consequences. Of course I am not part of evil. And I had to leave. Because I am Free. Not a slave. And this the "bosses" can not handle.
God does not force His Love. He just reveals it. And most are not ready for it. But many will see. And take over. And create better Living conditions all over the world. Others will of course just watch Jesus Saving the World. They are the Babies in the churches. That got stuck in religions and never grew up. And of course those that never new because they rejected God too. And many will see and leave their present situations for the Perfect Ones. And here we find the actual Holy War. Between Me and the devil. The human gods. Messing up the existence on planet earth. Enjoying themselves and their positions. But it is a killer. Just as you will see in "Pyrrho"'s situation.
He tried to come into Relationships. He actually joined us in discussions. But He didn't succeed. He was just too week. Or rather too "strong" in human live. So sad. Because that is actually where Joy and Happiness is. In being together in a Family Life. With a Father and a Mother and just enjoying Kid Life. But not many have that ability to go there. They are too "strong" in themselves. In being gods themselves. Ruling in their own lives. Unfortunately for themselves. They will stay in "boss and slave" death. This is death to Joy and Happiness found in Family Bonds of Love. This is living by fear. Fear to be banned and fear to loose the position of being "the boss".
So let us see how things will develop further. In this forum of slavery.
The Holy War.
God coming to save you from your cold intellectualism in obedience to your bosses while you are the slaves. And the bosses so desires to just be part of you. Enjoying live with you all. You are already in your own created "hell". Stuck in the slave situation. As those eating of the tree of knowledge is dead.
In Robertson i am now spreading the Word that all they did to me was for their own benefit. It was from God. God used the evil persecution of me to establish the Perfect Family. With their Mother. Which they rejected while She was helping them out of slavery. Establishing Love and Wisdom of God as His Ruling Anointing or Ability or Characteristic. This is very clearly seen on my pinned tweet in Twitter.
The "bosses"/pastors of course have a huge problem with this. So their "sick to death" situation that Abaddon saw and fear will now stay with them. Halleyscomet said in the "second last" post in the SSF that me being removed for "madness" is not possible. And me going to prison for assault is very "unlikely". In fact. I am part of a thriving business in my New Town of Nkqubela. Which I helped to built. Where they are now enjoying a wealthy life. Where everybody see that it was God blessing me and the house that took me in. So the "society factor" is solved. And I am also established in "turning the other cheek". Thus me getting angry and assaulting someone is out of the question. So the Holy War is reaching its end. Where my wife and kids and the pastors and everyone can just accept the part they played in establishing me as the Wife of God and they are all my Kids. And we are all living Happily together in Family Life of God. With Abaddon of course too. He also helped and played his part. And where the last of the worlds problems are solved too.
There is also no more rich and poor.
Acts 2
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41 ¶Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
And this of course will be another Holy War again. God's Kids giving the money not to the "pastors" anymore but to one another. As the Babies love their money and their position of honor so much. Oops!
Quote:You really are running away from that like the coward you truly are.
Yep. There are many "cowards".
The only one running was you from the assault of the pastor on me in SGU. Why have you not yet linked us? Still "running"?
And of course you running from facing your "friends"/the pastors about having "misused" you for their agenda.
And then you running in failing to tell them to face me.
And then of course:
Your "friends"/pastors running from facing me here. So if you stop with your running you can bring us something? Cowardice is also an evil spirit not sitting well in your soul. Seems it was him that forced you to try and pin "cowardice" on me?
(June 5, 2020 at 2:21 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
Huh?
There is still some immediate "saving" to do in your regard. The "dragon" life is not a good life. There in the latest links to the Skeptic Society forum you will see more about this particular saving. On page 11. Where Love and Wisdom rules in forums too. And "Pyrrho" is released from the "dragons".
Unfortunately it was just temporarily for him.
*yawn*
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
(June 6, 2020 at 9:00 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: The Bible is bullshit!
So it is a Perfect "Coincidence"?
I have no interest in the babblings of ignorant, superstitious scribes writing over 2,000 years ago.
Of course, it’s easy for us with our 21st Century, materialistic minds to dismiss the Bible as a load of rubbish. But in the actual analysis, that is exactly what the Bible turns out to be---a load of rubbish! It is a book of nonsensical, fantastic stories about talking animals, talking bushes, mythical creatures, people rising from the dead, magic and pseudo-history. It is the creation of ignorant, fallible men, reflecting the prejudices, superstitions, bad theology and fears of the times in which it was written. It promotes slavery, ethnic cleansing, race prejudice, wars of conquest, the subjugation of women, child abuse and genital mutilation. It promotes the worship and celebration of a god who is little more than an egotistical, homicidal, fear-mongering tyrant. It is a book which any reasonable, intellectually honest, and intelligent person should heartily dismiss as bad fiction.
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
June 7, 2020 at 2:57 pm (This post was last modified: June 7, 2020 at 3:04 pm by Abaddon_ire.)
(June 7, 2020 at 7:20 am)Nomad Wrote:
(May 25, 2020 at 12:33 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: If John Waters and Vincent Price could conceive of a child...
Scary thought for the day, John Waters did conceive a child, with Sinéad O'Connor.
She comprehensively went off the deep end.
(June 7, 2020 at 1:07 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: The Absence of God
Many wondered about this. Why is God not present in the World?
Because there is no god. Certainly not the one you believe is butt balling you as his bitch.
And dragging Pyrho into this? That is low even for you.
On to of that, your fuckwit god is all in favour of genocide, incest, slavery, human sacrifice, you name it. there is not atrocity your god will not support.
It is almost as though you never read your magic book.
(June 7, 2020 at 1:07 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: The Absence of God
Many wondered about this. Why is God not present in the World?
Just because the humans are their own gods. They don't want a God. Because if there is a God then they have to obey Him as God. In the OT it was easy. Everyone had their gods. Israel just had the Living God. So they always had the advantage. Except of course when they rejected Him. Then they were on the disciplining side. Without Him. And without Him means that they are on their own. And as a vulnerable nation that meant for them "on the loosing side".
Life moves on. God is actually a God with much more Love than being The God of a Nation. He is a Father. A Father has His own Family. But this Father disciplines in Love. Meaning there is no such thing as punishment. Because there is with God no laws to disobey. Laws are for the humans that do not have Love. They have to force obedience. With the fear of punishment. And you saw the disaster in Die Herberg when fear rules.
So God taught me Love and Wisdom. As I need to have this Ability when i am a Mother of His Children.
The humans like their "god lives". They like to be honored as "gods". And thus you find all the "pastors" being gods or rulers too. Not wanting to give over their position to the Real God. Which is now their Father. So human. And this is exactly how you also live. Society needs bosses. And they need fear and punishment. Which does not exist in God's Realm. He does not rule in fear and punishment. But in Love and Wisdom.
You will see that in my forum on Delphi. That is linked in my profile. I specifically mentioned in my introduction there 13 years ago when I started it. And you will experience that in my Facebook page and my Twitter page too. And everywhere that I have an account. There is no fear ruling. Because there are no laws. Therefore there is no punishment.
Eph. 2
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
There is thus no "bans" or "blocking" or anything like that. I exist now 13 years on the internet like that. So just as in Die Herberg nobody can tell me it is not possible.
You will find the same kind of ruling in Solomon's Reign in the Bible.
Proverbs 8
13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:*n4
21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
But of course it was not perfect because Wisdom was given Him as a gift. In Christians they get it as part of their Godly Character when they are Grown up. Everybody knows that there will come a day that Jesus rules. Well the Day is here.
Jesus is getting born now everywhere that I move. Some accept and some do not. Those that do not will for ever try to be Good like God. It is impossible. You have to be born God to be Good like God. And in this case you have to be Gown up to Rule in Wisdom. Which is of course the better Ruling. And the Better always takes over the "bad". Good always wins evil. That everybody knows.
Where Love and Wisdom rules there is no fear for punishment. Because there is no need for punishment. Love excludes laws and punishment. Love is everlasting while relationships built on fear and punishment is not. In fact they are mostly non existent. As you are seeing in the world. No matter what you try. Not even marriages last for ever. But it was given by "God" to last? Those that do last has long left the realm of human inferior love and is just staying together for the sake of themselves having a more comfortable live. Selfishness.
And the same is the reality here. This forum like any other exists for the benefit of self. And it is ruled by laws. Which have the power of fear for punishment. And this is of course rejection done in bans. Those who have some meager kind of existence together fear to lose the "meager" existence. And the live created here is a fake live. Just like Die Herberg. It is all for the sake of everybody's own benefit. A selfish situation. As those in Die Herberg were not there because of Love for the Children but because of Love for the money. And the "harsh and unfair principal" needed the "bad tempered patrons". And they needed him. All living together in evil. A Creation of God - according to the "pastors". And all "happily" enjoying their selfish lives until God pulled down their fake religion.
In God's Forums there is no selfishness. Their existence is for the sake of the other people. Everyone Lives Unselfish in God's Love towards one another. They are all part of God's Family. With a Father and Mothers and being Brothers and Sisters together. Where the Children grows up to become Mothers too. And then start ruling in Love and Wisdom where they are.
And this is where the bans come in. Why I am mostly banned by all. Because the bosses enjoy their evil ruling in fear and punishment by the laws that they create. But obviously there is no God present here. God is only present in the Ruling of Love and Wisdom. Which is to be experienced on God's Forums where He Rules Himself as the Father and Husband of all.
Everybody can change of course. They can give up their fear and punishment for Family Life in Love. Which is of course the Ultimate. But the bosses like their honor given them by all in establishing them as their "mod" or whatever. And then everybody is "looking up" to them to keep their society "healthy". And as result this is killing Relationships. Because where one rules over others there exists only slaves and slave drivers.
God is not into slavery. He is into Love. As a Father. And in His Love He is standing up against all slavery. As He has done always. And of course also in forums. Just revealing the situation for what it is. This you will see clearly in the SSF. Pyrrho there was confronted with this too. After we solved the situation in Robertson. Which the other forums were too foolish to do. As they were too busy with themselves and their evil situation in "slavery". And Pyrrho had to decide. But seems the force of the others forcing him to be the "boss" was his downfall. And he had to ban me too. But in doing so banned Love and Wisdom ruling. And he is stuck with being the "boss" there. Ruling the "slaves". And evil situation. And he created his own "hell". And is suffering the consequences. Of course I am not part of evil. And I had to leave. Because I am Free. Not a slave. And this the "bosses" can not handle.
God does not force His Love. He just reveals it. And most are not ready for it. But many will see. And take over. And create better Living conditions all over the world. Others will of course just watch Jesus Saving the World. They are the Babies in the churches. That got stuck in religions and never grew up. And of course those that never new because they rejected God too. And many will see and leave their present situations for the Perfect Ones. And here we find the actual Holy War. Between Me and the devil. The human gods. Messing up the existence on planet earth. Enjoying themselves and their positions. But it is a killer. Just as you will see in "Pyrrho"'s situation.
He tried to come into Relationships. He actually joined us in discussions. But He didn't succeed. He was just too week. Or rather too "strong" in human live. So sad. Because that is actually where Joy and Happiness is. In being together in a Family Life. With a Father and a Mother and just enjoying Kid Life. But not many have that ability to go there. They are too "strong" in themselves. In being gods themselves. Ruling in their own lives. Unfortunately for themselves. They will stay in "boss and slave" death. This is death to Joy and Happiness found in Family Bonds of Love. This is living by fear. Fear to be banned and fear to loose the position of being "the boss".
So let us see how things will develop further. In this forum of slavery.
The Holy War.
God coming to save you from your cold intellectualism in obedience to your bosses while you are the slaves. And the bosses so desires to just be part of you. Enjoying live with you all. You are already in your own created "hell". Stuck in the slave situation. As those eating of the tree of knowledge is dead.
In Robertson i am now spreading the Word that all they did to me was for their own benefit. It was from God. God used the evil persecution of me to establish the Perfect Family. With their Mother. Which they rejected while She was helping them out of slavery. Establishing Love and Wisdom of God as His Ruling Anointing or Ability or Characteristic. This is very clearly seen on my pinned tweet in Twitter.
The "bosses"/pastors of course have a huge problem with this. So their "sick to death" situation that Abaddon saw and fear will now stay with them. Halleyscomet said in the "second last" post in the SSF that me being removed for "madness" is not possible. And me going to prison for assault is very "unlikely". In fact. I am part of a thriving business in my New Town of Nkqubela. Which I helped to built. Where they are now enjoying a wealthy life. Where everybody see that it was God blessing me and the house that took me in. So the "society factor" is solved. And I am also established in "turning the other cheek". Thus me getting angry and assaulting someone is out of the question. So the Holy War is reaching its end. Where my wife and kids and the pastors and everyone can just accept the part they played in establishing me as the Wife of God and they are all my Kids. And we are all living Happily together in Family Life of God. With Abaddon of course too. He also helped and played his part. And where the last of the worlds problems are solved too.
There is also no more rich and poor.
Acts 2
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41 ¶Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
And this of course will be another Holy War again. God's Kids giving the money not to the "pastors" anymore but to one another. As the Babies love their money and their position of honor so much. Oops!
And I am fighting alone in the world?
Not really.
God is absent because he doesn't exist.
Nobody cares about your fanfiction.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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