Preachers like John only want power (thru control and manipulation) and sex. Why do you think I keep asking him about his dick.

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: For once you are indeed correct. The issue here really IS you. You are the issue. And the abject crankery you espouse. And the actions you inflict on everyone proximate to you. And your casual evil with which you afflict others around you.

See, normally, I would have a polite debate on a forum with whomever had some god claim. Normally, I would be unmoved much by whatever such a protagonist invented by way of an argument for their deity of choice.

But you? No.  See most of those god botherers are misguided, but harmless. You, as I found out, are actively and willingly harmful. And that is unforgivable.

Now  I can give you one or two guarantees. No I will not follow you to whichever forum you next infect with your toxic nonsense. I have no interest in wasting that kind of time.  As far as I am concerned, you can go die in a fire. Because I know what you have done. And those horrible actions must IMHO always be opposed. I consider it a moral imperative to oppose that level of actual evil.

That said, if you do turn up out of the blue on any other forum where I am a member, I will not hesitate to immediately respond by wheeling out the facts of the matter wherever that venue might be.

Why? Because your brand immorality should always be opposed whenever encountered. You are not the usual theist debater, you actually do it in real life and make real people around you suffer. And you simply do not care.

Quote:For once you are indeed correct.

You can admit I am right here.  Because admitting I am right in you having been taken for a ride is a bit too much.  But out of your response we can see that I was right there too. I was persecuted for bringing in God's Love and Wisdom in the place of fear and punishment.  

Quote:The issue here really IS you. You are the issue. And the abject crankery you espouse. And the actions you inflict on everyone proximate to you. And your casual evil with which you afflict others around you.

And all of this you tried to prove.  Without success.  All just "backbiting".  Because I was actually bringing in the Ruling of God in Love and Wisdom in the place of the fear and punishment. 

Quote:You, as I found out, are actively and willingly harmful.

Seems you are struggling to find my source of  Power that I am exerting.  Giving it to anger and a "cudgel".  And you don't see.   That it is actually the man with the anger that gets ill.  That is why I am still perfectly healthy and  those with the anger like you "sick to death".  

Quote:And that is unforgivable.

And this is the reason for you "downfall".  And being "sick to death" with those in Robertson.    Because God said "forgive".  And you refuse.  Thus your "sickness".  

Quote:And those horrible actions must IMHO always be opposed. I consider it a moral imperative to oppose that level of actual evil.

You keep on making the mistake of "acting" this "level of evil" while it is totally wrong.  This "level" of evil was from the other side.  

Quote:That said, if you do turn up out of the blue on any other forum where I am a member, I will not hesitate to immediately respond by wheeling out the facts of the matter wherever that venue might be.

Good.   I am glad you give me the opportunity to reveal what is actually going on.  Can you please give me all the forums that you are on?

Quote:Why? Because your brand immorality should always be opposed whenever encountered.

Good.  You will have your opportunity now.  

Quote:You are not the usual theist debater, you actually do it in real life

Good that you see this.   I am not into endless debating.  Trying to show off my intellect and being worshiped for how good I am.  I am into Real God Life.  

Quote: and make real people around you suffer.

Nope.  I have no means to do that.  It is their anger that makes them suffer.  Nothing more and nothing less.  When you forgive someone for his anger and evil actions as result then they start suffering. 


Rom 12
 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.

   If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
   Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
   Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
   Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Here you see the Overcoming Power of God.  And the "coals of fire" on the opposite side.  Which you struggle to fathom.  Sure Robertson are really "sick to death" as you evaluated them truthfully.  But because of these "coals of fire".  And Good always overcome evil.   When it is not "avenging" but "place is given to wrath".  Then God Himself do the "vengeance and repaying".  


Not my doing.  You give me too much credit.  And then you are looking for my Power in something (cudgel) that does not exist.  

Quote:And you simply do not care.

Wrong.  I do.  It is you that don't care.  Because you don't want to call them here to see their healing.  To stop with their anger and backbiting and using their "cudgels" on me.  Because they are actually fighting against God.  With evil.  And their downfall is evident. 

I can not call them.  They run from me.  But you are on "speaking terms".  You can call them.  To be healed.  To see God used the evil for much Good.  They have a Holy Mother now.   To Love and not to fight.   As Love will be their healing.  In the place of their anger.

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(June 10, 2020 at 3:15 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I’m not interested in anything you cannot demonstrate exists.

Good.  Then you can be our Jesus.  Because I am really existing.  As you can see @Abaddon_ire  is saying.  As your Holy Mother.  To give birth to you as our Child Jesus. 


Gal. 4

19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

And then you are saved by Me from the "dragons". 

And one day when i can link you will see your other Brothers and Sisters too.  In your Family of God.  For now you can look them up on my Facebook Page.  

And you learn to Live the Life in the Family of God in Faith.  The Faith of God that creates by His Words. 

Hebrews 11
  Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

   For by it the elders obtained a good report.
   Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

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(June 9, 2020 at 8:22 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote: Um...I have no interest in your insane babblings either. You're delusional and can't be reasoned with.

“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” (Thomas Paine)

Quote:Um...I have no interest in your insane babblings either. You're delusional and can't be reasoned with.

You have to use this excuse for "running away".   Because that is the only one that your intellect and your pride will accept.  No problem.  We understand. 


John 10
  ¶There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.

   And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
   Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

Quote:“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” (Thomas Paine)

Seems Thomas Paine also met with God?

I’m the one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people-eater. Prove me wrong mother fucker!

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: You have to use this excuse for "running away".   Because that is the only one that your intellect and your pride will accept.  No problem.  We understand. 


John 10
  ¶There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.

   And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
   Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

Running away? Wrong! It is YOU who is running away from a reasonable discussion because, as you have demonstrated, you lack the intellectual integrity and courage to entertain the possibility that you might be wrong. Thank you for proving my point that religion is your form of insanity. You and I are done here because I will not waste any more time and energy trying to reason with an intellectual illiterate with a closed mind.

I have banished you to the Penalty Box.

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: For once you are indeed correct.

You can admit I am right here.  Because admitting I am right in you having been taken for a ride is a bit too much.  But out of your response we can see that I was right there too. I was persecuted for bringing in God's Love and Wisdom in the place of fear and punishment.  

Nope. The issue here is you and your untreated illness. You have nothing of value in any sense to offer to anyone.

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: The issue here really IS you. You are the issue. And the abject crankery you espouse. And the actions you inflict on everyone proximate to you. And your casual evil with which you afflict others around you.

And all of this you tried to prove.  Without success.  All just "backbiting".  Because I was actually bringing in the Ruling of God in Love and Wisdom in the place of the fear and punishment. 

Oh, I proved it. But as usual, you took the cowards way out.

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: You, as I found out, are actively and willingly harmful.

Seems you are struggling to find my source of  Power that I am exerting.  Giving it to anger and a "cudgel".  And you don't see.   That it is actually the man with the anger that gets ill.  That is why I am still perfectly healthy and  those with the anger like you "sick to death".  

What power? You have none.
Unlike you, I have never in my life threatened anyone with anything.
And after all these years, you still are too stupid to figure out what the phrase "sick to death" actually means.

This is what the phrase means you lazy lying sack...
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/sick+to+death+of

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: And that is unforgivable.

And this is the reason for you "downfall".  And being "sick to death" with those in Robertson.    Because God said "forgive".  And you refuse.  Thus your "sickness".  

Wow. You really are illiterate.

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: And those horrible actions must IMHO always be opposed. I consider it a moral imperative to oppose that level of actual evil.

You keep on making the mistake of "acting" this "level of evil" while it is totally wrong.  This "level" of evil was from the other side.  

No, I merely see you for what you really are.

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: That said, if you do turn up out of the blue on any other forum where I am a member, I will not hesitate to immediately respond by wheeling out the facts of the matter wherever that venue might be.

Good.   I am glad you give me the opportunity to reveal what is actually going on.  Can you please give me all the forums that you are on?

For what? More stalking? Fuck right off with that nonsense.

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Why? Because your brand immorality should always be opposed whenever encountered.

Good.  You will have your opportunity now.  

And I took it. Now, everyone here knows exactly what you are.

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: You are not the usual theist debater, you actually do it in real life

Good that you see this.   I am not into endless debating.  Trying to show off my intellect and being worshiped for how good I am.  I am into Real God Life.  

You have no intellect to show off.

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:  and make real people around you suffer.

Nope.  I have no means to do that.  It is their anger that makes them suffer.  Nothing more and nothing less.  When you forgive someone for his anger and evil actions as result then they start suffering. 

What you mean is that the methods you used to used to inflict actual suffering on others have been taken from you.

<sinp pointless crap from the magic book>

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: Not my doing.  You give me too much credit.  And then you are looking for my Power in something (cudgel) that does not exist.  

I give you no credit. For anything.

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:

(June 10, 2020 at 11:58 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: And you simply do not care.

Wrong.  I do.  It is you that don't care.  Because you don't want to call them here to see their healing.  To stop with their anger and backbiting and using their "cudgels" on me.  Because they are actually fighting against God.  With evil.  And their downfall is evident. 

No. If you think that somehow you can use me as a means to further piss off those people on your behalf, you have guess again. Because in the very next sentence you state that...

(June 11, 2020 at 8:44 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: I can not call them.  They run from me.  But you are on "speaking terms".  You can call them.  To be healed.  To see God used the evil for much Good.  They have a Holy Mother now.   To Love and not to fight.   As Love will be their healing.  In the place of their anger.

That's right. You are legally barred from contacting them, but I am not.  Thus you seek to manipulate me to contact them and re-insert your toxicity into their lives vicariously. Not going to happen.

Has anyone else noticed, in the past few month, a rise in the number of insane religious nuts coming here?

It's like someone left the porch light on again and the moths are arriving in swarms.

For fucks sake, turn the light off!

(June 11, 2020 at 4:37 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Has anyone else noticed, in the past few months, a rise in the number of insane religious nuts coming here?

It's like someone left the porch light on again and the moths are arriving in swarms.

For fucks sake, turn the light off!

Valkyrie, arm weapons array! Set phasers to SMITE!

(June 11, 2020 at 2:27 pm)brewer Wrote: Preachers like John only want power (thru control and manipulation) and sex. Why do you think I keep asking him about his dick.

Ah! And here I wus thenking you were talking about his dek.

 



   

Not at work.

(June 9, 2020 at 1:39 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:

(June 9, 2020 at 10:26 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: The "evidence" are all over this post.   So you are actually choosing to miss them.  @Abaddon_ire can help you with these.  Where it is about a town being saved from their evil disciplining of their children.  

And then there is your actual saving from intellectualism also.

And then of course your saving from slavery too.

The actual "Savior" is God.  Just using humans.  Because humans are not really able to operate on this scale.  

All these are from God.  As you can never give the honor to a man for doing that.

So... you just link back into this thread.... ?

Anything posted within this thread would be a 'Claim'.

So... a 'Claim' is not the actual evidence.

Do you have something other than this thread, something that is real and existant out within reality?

Cheers.

Not at work.

Quote:Do you have something other than this thread, something that is real and existant out within reality?

Sure.  I am not allowed to link you.  Because of humans not ruling in Love and Wisdom.  So they have their laws by which they rule.  That is very unfortunate for you.  As you are all slaves to laws now.  And you have this bad relationships of the "bosses and the slaves".  Where you have the bosses ruling the slaves with fear.  Using punishment.  Banning you from your "life" here.  Not much of a "life" though.  But still. 

My Life is Real.  And @Abaddon_ire witnessed about it.  Saying it every time.

Then you will see that I am really here to save you from yourself.  And the forum from slavery.

  Again.  Just follow the thread.

(June 11, 2020 at 12:03 pm)brewer Wrote: Still waiting to see your dick John.

Gay.

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(June 11, 2020 at 4:37 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Has anyone else noticed, in the past few month, a rise in the number of insane religious nuts coming here?

It's like someone left the porch light on again and the moths are arriving in swarms.

For fucks sake, turn the light off!

Probably because of the quarantine and having nothing better to do.

(June 12, 2020 at 12:19 am)Eleven Wrote:

(June 11, 2020 at 12:03 pm)brewer Wrote: Still waiting to see your dick John.

Gay.

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Quote:Gay.

Nope.  But why do you say it?

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(June 12, 2020 at 12:19 am)Eleven Wrote:

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(June 11, 2020 at 4:37 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Has anyone else noticed, in the past few month, a rise in the number of insane religious nuts coming here?

It's like someone left the porch light on again and the moths are arriving in swarms.

For fucks sake, turn the light off!

Probably because of the quarantine and having nothing better to do.

Nope.  Not me.  I am here to Save you.  Saving you from cold intellectualism and slavery.

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(June 9, 2020 at 10:17 am)Sal Wrote:

(June 9, 2020 at 9:48 am)Johanabrahams Wrote: They were disobedient. 

Gen. 2
   But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

They believed the "serpent" that God lied.  And they decided to go with the serpents words against the warning of God.  To be "gods" and having knowledge was just too "good" to ignore.

Gen. 3
   And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

   For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
   And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it waspleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat

You didn't answer my question. Seems to be a staple of yours.

You just didn't understand the answer.  They knew God said they should not eat of that tree. The knew the right thing to do that they can eat of all the trees.  And they knew wrong that they should not eat of the tree of Knowledge.   Desire comes in when you want to do something that you know you should not do.  They enjoyed looking at the tree to eat the fruit that they knew God said they should not eat.  Because then they would be dead.  They desired something they should not do.