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God's Love
RE: God's Love
(June 24, 2020 at 10:21 am)flakingnapstich Wrote: Dead Horse There you go again, claiming everyone sick of your BS of "running" from you. Sad. Low energy.

It's part of his delusion. He thinks that when people eventually get pissed off with his bullshit and tell him to fuck off, it is a sign of his divine power.

OTOH, he thinks that when people continue to interact with him, it is also a sign of his divine power.

I am quite content to continue to interact with him by telling him to go fuck himself with a cactus. Interesting to note that even facebook banned him. They are notoriously tolerant of most things.

Hey, Johan the Ripper, show us a copy of the facebook notice, you coward.

As for the Skeptic Forum links, do you understand why you cannot link to any of my posts there? Because there are none. And you are a moron. Since I am not a member there, I can neither post there, nor "run away" either.

HalleysComet is a member there and he didn't run away from you either. You are banned and he is still a member there. He did post an interesting summary of what happens to you everywhere you wash ashore on the internet...

Quote:1. Honest discussion under the mistaken assumption he's sincere.
2. Realizing he may not be quite right in the head.
3. Seeing he's bat guano bananas.
4. Encouraging him to seek psychiatric aid.
5. Disengagement because they're tired of his s***.

Also of note, your Disqus is gone too.

Also of note about that thread is that on page nine, the site owner intervened to recommend that nobody click on the links to your facebook page as you were using tracking software to capture their account details and would then proceed to cyberstalk them via facebook. You actually did this to me and three others that I know of for certain. And who knows how many more. That is because you are an evil bastard. It isn't a surprise though, is it? You stalked your ex-wife, you stalked your children, you stalked OTHER peoples children, you stalked your former fellow pastors and former fellow church members, you stalked an entire town.

Not only that, you tried it again in this very thread. You demanded that I provided you a list of other sites where I was a member. IN THIS THREAD.

The leopard has most definitely not changed a single spot. You are certifiable. In that thread that you linked you claimed to be a god. That is industrial grade hubris. Your magic book claims that "Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall." Book of Proverbs, 16:18 and you have certainly fallen

Oh and Johan...













Go fuck yourself with a cactus.
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RE: God's Love
(June 24, 2020 at 6:23 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:
(June 21, 2020 at 11:59 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: It was never the role of the Jewish messiah to "die for sins". It's not a Biblical notion. Christians cooked it up, when the end-times didn't happen as they predicted. 
Even the disciples said "Wilt Thou O Lord, at this time, restore the kingdom to Israel" .... That's what the role of a messiah was. Your Jebus failed in that.
When the young man in Matthew asked what he had to do to get into heaven, did Jesus say "Oh, just you wait, Im'a gonna be dyin' for y'all "? Nope.
He said "Keep the commandments" ... that's all. The rest your stupid cult cooked up later.





Actually you did. You said I rejected faith. You were reading my mind, as well as judging me, which your Jebus told you not to do.



Nope. Just a logical conclusion from what YOU said. You should stop placing your god up for ridicule.


In your delusional world it doesn't work that way. Grow up.
BTW have you thanked your Jebus for Covid19 today ?

Stop the Babble quotes already. There are no gods, and they gave us nothing. 
We do NOT accept the authority of your Babble quotes. You know that. Why would an idiot keep posting shit from a book he KNOWS we do not accept ? You're a VERY POOR excuse for a preacher.


Bla bla bla. You're not my mother.
Your brand of this rubbish is the usual Fundamentalist crap ... a minority view in religious circles. Your approach is quite scandalous.
There is a book you should buy on Amazon called "How NOT to Share Your Faith".
You appear to be a rank beginner at this. You really ought to go take some classes and learn both how to present ideas and learn about the ideas.
You clearly know next to nothing about world religions and in particular Judaism and Christianity. Your hermeneutic of judgement is not Christian.

What you are, is yet another rank amateur charlatan, pretending to present a religion he knows nothing about, because he GETS OFF on judging other people.
Get help. You need it badly.


Quote:t was never the role of the Jewish messiah to "die for sins". It's not a Biblical notion. Christians cooked it up, when the end-times didn't happen as they predicted. 
Even the disciples said "Wilt Thou O Lord, at this time, restore the kingdom to Israel" .... That's what the role of a messiah was. Your Jebus failed in that.
When the young man in Matthew asked what he had to do to get into heaven, did Jesus say "Oh, just you wait, Im'a gonna be dyin' for y'all "? Nope.
He said "Keep the commandments" ... that's all. The rest your stupid cult cooked up later.

Human has such a lack of knowledge about God and Life in general.  "Dying for sins" are mostly so diluted.  This "dying for sins" are actually taking human life into the grave and raising God - Life again.  We died to sinful and weak human life and were born again in the Life of God Himself.  Becoming True Gods by a birth from Him. 

John 10
 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

  34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 
  35  If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 
  36  Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

This "Jebus" you are talking about is actually "Jesus".  It is who we are now as Children of God.   We are the Son of God and the same as Him because we are born of Him.   And every birth creates exactly the same Life as the Parents.  In this regard "The Kingdom" is perfectly restored with us being the "Kings". 

What you believe in was "cooked up" and not worthy of God's Redemption. 


Quote:Actually you did. You said I rejected faith. You were reading my mind, as well as judging me, which your Jebus told you not to do.

Again a "diluted" cooked up version.   We were asked not to judge "prematurely".   Before we are not given Judgment Ability from God.  Then we Judge. 

Mat 19
28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


Quote:Nope. Just a logical conclusion from what YOU said. You should stop placing your god up for ridicule.


A "logical conclusion" is just that.  But your "conclusion was full of "angry words".   An anger spirit.   A devil.   And now you are trying to cover up.   Dishonesty.   And the resulting embarrassment of others seeing you for who and what you are.  From that we were redeemed.  From what you display here.  Sinful human life that is nothing more than an embarrassment to its owner.  We are Perfect now.  We are the same as our Father.  

And that is what is the actual "pain" with you guys.  You missed it.  But it was of your own doing.  And pride will prevent you from changing.  Oops!  You are stuck in sinners life.  Human dead life of Adam.  While God's Life is available.  

You are now where you thought my God was.  Being ridiculed.


Quote:In your delusional world it doesn't work that way. Grow up.
BTW have you thanked your Jebus for Covid19 today ?

Stop the Babble quotes already. There are no gods, and they gave us nothing. 
We do NOT accept the authority of your Babble quotes. You know that. Why would an idiot keep posting shit from a book he KNOWS we do not accept ? You're a VERY POOR excuse for a preacher.

Anger is forcing through again.  


Quote:Bla bla bla. You're not my mother.
Your brand of this rubbish is the usual Fundamentalist crap ... a minority view in religious circles. Your approach is quite scandalous.
There is a book you should buy on Amazon called "How NOT to Share Your Faith".
You appear to be a rank beginner at this. You really ought to go take some classes and learn both how to present ideas and learn about the ideas.
You clearly know next to nothing about world religions and in particular Judaism and Christianity. Your hermeneutic of judgement is not Christian.

What you are, is yet another rank amateur charlatan, pretending to present a religion he knows nothing about, because he GETS OFF on judging other people.
Get help. You need it badly.

Some more anger.   Anger is an evil spirit messing up your life.  Which you can not control.  Making you a slave to it.  That is the weak human life that Jesus redeemed us from.  We rule the spiritual realm.  You are ruled by it. 

We are like our Father.  Kings.  We don't need a "Messiah" anymore.  We are the "Messiah".  

Mat. 5
43  ¶Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 

  44  But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 
  45  That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 
  46  For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 
  47  And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 
  48  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. 

(June 24, 2020 at 6:10 am)no one Wrote: Be honest Johan, the oxygen on this planet tickles that feeble little tinker of yours, doesn't it?

I will be honest.   Seems you think i don't exist?  But I do.  Exactly as I am saying.  And @Abaddon_ire has witnessed about it. And because of his faith in "backbiting" he is on the run now. 

And you think all of this is just "delusion"?  Has the "oxygen tickled" you?

(June 21, 2020 at 2:39 pm)no one Wrote: If I rent my love hourly, but I'm an otherwise decent human being, will god bend the rules and let me in, or will I have to sneak in through the back door?

Everyone is a "sinner".  And will always be.  Sure.  Many try.  In vain.  They call themselves "pastors" and work so hard to be there.  Have big "churches" for God.  And they miss.  You and nobody can ever make it on the merit of himself.   That is "hypocritical" thinking. 

God Loves us and give us a New Life.  Of Jesus.  As He died for you to make this possible you will have to die too.  To be the Son He desires you to be.  To be the Best that He is giving.  Because only in the Life of Jesus can be the Perfect Relationship with God that He desires.  In Jesus you are Perfect.   Outside of him and in your own "goodness" you are not Perfect. 

And just a waste of time to try to be.  But you know humans.   They are always trying.  And showing off how much they attained already.   So foolish.  Wanting to be honored.  Clergy including.  Running "in front".   And missing it.

In fact.  I accepted the such as you.  On my Facebook page.  Because God does. 

https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/statu...7316523009

Jesus also got problems from the "hypocrites" for the same reason.  And these "hypocrites" complained and my account was disabled.   But because i was not really doing the wrong i could open another one.  But of course i can not accept them anymore there.  So i am trying twitter now.  Now i am home to you on my Twitter account.  I don't think you and your friends will be a problem there.   Only on Facebook.  Because of their "community standards".

(June 21, 2020 at 3:42 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Knocking at the back door before entering is always encouraged. You might get a slap in the face otherwise.

No need to.   God accepts everyone.  Just walk into the Real Door.  It is Jesus.  Even the clergy will have to do the same.  Some think they are "too good" for it.  They will get the "slap".  With or without knocking.

It was a joke about anal sex.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: God's Love
Maybe he wants you to pound through jesus's backdoor like you were the koolaid man without so much as a dinner and a kiss.

These people......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: God's Love
(June 24, 2020 at 3:52 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: It was a joke about anal sex.

Which makes....

Quote:No need to. God accepts everyone. Just walk into the Real Door. It is Jesus. Even the clergy will have to do the same. Some think they are "too good" for it. They will get the "slap". With or without knocking.

Sound like a homoerotic B.D.S.M. encounter with the almighty
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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RE: God's Love
Have we already taken bets on what johan is up to behind the keyboard when he posts here?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: God's Love
(June 24, 2020 at 6:16 pm)possibletarian Wrote:
(June 24, 2020 at 3:52 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: It was a joke about anal sex.

Which makes....

Quote:No need to.   God accepts everyone.  Just walk into the Real Door.  It is Jesus.  Even the clergy will have to do the same.  Some think they are "too good" for it.  They will get the "slap".  With or without knocking.

Sound like a homoerotic B.D.S.M. encounter with the almighty
Given my long research, the homoerotic aspect has been long suspected.

My eldest is trans. One evening we were discussing attitudes. So I said let me show you Johan.  So I did without commentary.

His response? I quote: "That's just creepy".

And he was correct. Johan is just creepy. 

Given my eldest is active in the LGBTQ+ community, and as a result so am I, both of us spotted the tells.

I also showed his crap to my youngest, who is somewhat less diplomatic. Her verdict? "Stupid queer in denial, why are you wasting time with this?". Such is the wisdom of children.

So I quit. He had already been banned from any sites upon which I was a member, so the hell with it.

And then the cunt turns up here and starts the whole shitshow again from scratch.

No. I am resolved to tell everyone involved whenever he turns up exactly what his nature is and make no apology for doing so. The truth will out. And often it is best that it does. Sooner rather than later.

Abuse will only continue so long as we all do nothing.
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(June 24, 2020 at 3:52 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: It was a joke about anal sex.

That's what I was thinking but couldn't think of any sass to respond with.  Hehe
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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(June 24, 2020 at 9:35 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(June 24, 2020 at 6:23 am)Johanabrahams Wrote:  Human has such a lack of knowledge about God and Life in general.  "Dying for sins" are mostly so diluted.  This "dying for sins" are actually taking human life into the grave and raising God - Life again.  We died to sinful and weak human life and were born again in the Life of God Himself.  Becoming True Gods by a birth from Him. 

Not sure what cult this is, but it's not Christianity. Another religionist comes here, claiming to be a Christian, but has in is fact make up his own cult. 
Yet another internet nut case pretending to be an authority on religions. Dime a dozen, 
There is no mainline Christian sect that says humans become gods. It's heresy.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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Oddly enough, it's probably more representative of the christian traditions which gave the current crop of christians their magic books and beliefs. Sadly, those proto-christians knew that the other christians were dangerous nuts. So they killed them and blamed it on the romans.

People seeking apotheosis would be far less tedious and more fun than people looking to get into a themepark in the sky.

Quote:For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God.
-Peter
Quote: For He was made man that we might be made God.
-Iranaeus
Quote:The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods.
-Saint Tommy
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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Remember, everyone, god loves you unless you're a woman, gay, not Jewish (according to the OT), are Jewish (according to the NT), or have any imperfections.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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