@Drich

You're just another Harold Camping. Here's my prophecy: Nothing will happen in 3½ years and your name will be added to the list of hundreds of Bible believers who thought they could predict the End Times.

My dad's been predicting the rapture will happen sometime in the next five years for over 40 years now.

(September 24, 2020 at 9:57 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: My dad's been predicting the rapture will happen sometime in the next five years for over 40 years now.

There are probably well over a dozen prophet wannabees who have predicted the End Times, in one form or another, during my lifetime. The first was a Catholic nun who, in 1956, told me and my classmates that the world would end in the year 2000. 

(September 23, 2020 at 5:59 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote:

(September 23, 2020 at 3:49 pm)Drich Wrote: I was mad at God a long long time as well. and as much had every right to be as i understood this world and him. the only thing i had going for me was the desire for the truth and my willingness to let go my original understanding and change my life in accordance to the truth as i discovered it. firs thing i learned was just about everything i believe about god was wrong. the second thing the standards i used to just God were self serving. once i learned the unfiltered truth i honestly could not find anything to be mad at.

If end-time prophesies are true, then:

* Creationists are right.  The world was created for humans a short time ago, was a failure, and is scheduled for quick termination.

Unfortunately, science shows us the vastness of the universe, of which we are only a speck.  In existence in its current form for 13.7 Billion years, it will likely continue for unimaginable time (barring a big crunch).

Why not entertain the idea that end-time prophesy is all just a scary bedtime story?

Human beings evolved to live on this planet -- it wasn't created for us.  Sure, we can kill ourselves, but if we do, it seems that bible-believing Christians will be the ones gleefully pushing the button.

maybe google yellow ston national park super volcano... this brings the time span from your 13.7 billion years to a closer danger even on the long end of the projections. https://youtu.be/SdLkUa3OB6Y

and again, the bible describes such an event .

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(September 24, 2020 at 9:51 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: @Drich

You're just another Harold Camping. Here's my prophecy: Nothing will happen in 3½ years and your name will be added to the list of hundreds of Bible believers who thought they could predict the End Times.

read the op i gave predictions based on who the jews are calling the messiah will reveal himself, with in a year. and a peace treat being signed and ratified with in the next few weeks. remember the jews despite all christ did/miracles, was not called messiah. This guy is some how putting on a show that answers all jewish expectation. not in 3.5 years but now and will be shown to the world as the jewish messiah. not to mention the return of the temple which has been gone since 70AD.. again not my words but this is what is being reported in the israeli news! I'm not so much making predictions but showing you they are happening like it or not

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(September 24, 2020 at 9:57 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: My dad's been predicting the rapture will happen sometime in the next five years for over 40 years now.

not talking about the rapture as it will not include ay of us. or at least the first one. i'm talking about the predicted events that triggers said rapture being reported in the jewish news. things that has never before happened but needed to inorder for the rapture to happen. i want you to see this coming, so when it happens there is no doubt. because it will be scientifically explained away no doubt.

(September 24, 2020 at 12:39 pm)Drich Wrote: maybe google yellow ston national park super volcano... this brings the time span from your 13.7 billion years to a closer danger even on the long end of the projections. https://youtu.be/SdLkUa3OB6Y

and again, the bible describes such an event .

Yup, Yellowstone might directly kill a few states in the U.S. one day, and indirectly kill many millions more.  It is unlikely to happen any time soon, and is not the same as a biblical end times.

The idea that a natural disaster or nuclear war is somehow the biblical Armageddon is just stupid.  It just means a lot of dead people and other life.  It isn't something to look forward to, and is just a fucking waste.

(September 24, 2020 at 10:13 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(September 24, 2020 at 9:57 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: My dad's been predicting the rapture will happen sometime in the next five years for over 40 years now.

There are probably well over a dozen prophet wannabees who have predicted the End Times, in one form or another, during my lifetime. The first was a Catholic nun who, in 1956, told me and my classmates that the world would end in the year 2000. 

again sport not predicting the end, just the point where God kicks off the beginning of the end. by showing news stories from israel that our media has no intrest in. things the bible predicts, that are for the first time since jesus walked the earth are happening now. that is the one thing that separates what i'm doing and the doomsday prophets. I'm not giving a doomsday date. and i'm not trying to fortell, but rather infor of what is happening that has never happened before. things the bible said would happen.

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(September 24, 2020 at 12:47 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote:

(September 24, 2020 at 12:39 pm)Drich Wrote: maybe google yellow ston national park super volcano... this brings the time span from your 13.7 billion years to a closer danger even on the long end of the projections. https://youtu.be/SdLkUa3OB6Y

and again, the bible describes such an event .

Yup, Yellowstone might directly kill a few states in the U.S. one day, and indirectly kill many millions more.  It is unlikely to happen any time soon, and is not the same as a biblical end times.

The idea that a natural disaster or nuclear war is somehow the biblical Armageddon is just stupid.  It just means a lot of dead people and other life.  It isn't something to look forward to, and is just a fucking waste.

watch the video.. we are 40,000 years over due as the predicted cycle is about every 600,000 years and we are at 640,000. and yes a few states will instantly be destroyed, the planet however is in for a long nuclear winter as millions of tons of ash will fill the upper atmosphere. even if it only drops the planet temp a few degrees this will throw off food production to the point where millions if not billions will starve. watch the video.

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im not trying to force anything onto any one. i just want to keep you up dated as things play out over there. this is what the tribulation period is all about. it is proof for those who truly seek it. it is a reason to hate god even more for those who seek that. bottom line, like it or not stuff in the bible is happening we are 4 out of maybe 12ish major events ending with the 1st rapture or the rapture. I am not an end of the world person. i studied the 4 major schools of thoughts and i feel all have some legitimacy to them. i don't think any one school has it right, but to each a piece. right now we are following the prederest pov with a pre trib rapture, which i extended to mid and also post trib, as i believe the tribulation is a period means to soften hard hearts. to break stubborn people of their prejudices and tightly held but wrong views of god.

Your god needs to learn how to debate people, if it wants to change their minds. Constant executions are mickey mouse shit.

(September 24, 2020 at 12:49 pm)Drich Wrote: again sport not predicting the end, just the point where God kicks off the beginning of the end. by showing news stories from israel that our media has no intrest in. things the bible predicts, that are for the first time since jesus walked the earth are happening now. that is the one thing that separates what i'm doing and the doomsday prophets. I'm not giving a doomsday date. and i'm not trying to fortell, but rather infor of what is happening that has never happened before. things the bible said would happen.

The question is, do you believe it?

Have you beaten down that wall with your forehead yet, drick?

(September 24, 2020 at 1:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Your god needs to learn how to debate people, if it wants to change their minds.  Constant executions are mickey mouse shit.

lol... seriously what could you possibly say in a debate to God?

Because seriously anything you had to say would spawn from a lack of understanding of either the purpose of life or proper perspective of life. 

for instance everything you might have to say is based on the sovereignty of life/how you value your life and your understanding of morality in regards to the preservation of life.

lets say god is not a wizard but more of an leader of what we would see or consider are aliens and just for perspectives sake let's say Sim theory is correct and God is simply the master programmer of this world/our matrix. which means we too are alien as we are not really of this tresterial "reality" in fact we are like god made in his image ie spiritual by nature.. and this sim/this world was the proving ground we all elected to go through to prove our worth and position in the after life/the real world. (because that is the scenario which closely matches what the bible says we are and out role here.

this would explain what you would see as God's calaver attitude towards human life. as when our life ends in the sim, we simply wake up as immortal beings in the spiritual world. so to call a whole race of people, or women and children home from an evil part of the sim.. from God's perspective is a great mercy. to call a child home who in the sim had cancer or was brutalized by monsters again from God's pov this is a great mercy. but all you choose to see is what this life owes you/humanity. what God owes each human (100 years of easy living)

so i ask again what is there for you to debate? little to nothing. there is only room for you to learn to grow past the idea this life is it, and your owed any part of it.

I honestly thought the same way you did, but mine was more rage fueled. in that i wanted a chance to fight God as i heard one of the ot guys got to fight him.. to the point where God had to break his hip/cheat to win. I felt like i was owed more/alot of terrible things happened to me as a child and rightly it was not fare. but what i came to understand is God had protected me in so many other ways. that my understanding of ultimate evil ultimate wrong was based on the wrongs/evils he had allowed on this earth. meaning from my perspective and from the perspective of most people the only thing worse that could have happened to me is if i were killed and eaten. because again from our understanding our experience death is the ultimate wrong. death is the ultimate sin from our perspective, and if God loved us... (again my understanding of love was selfish and self preserving) these things would not happen. but again if god created a world where gossip was the worst sin, then we would feel the same way about that sin, when someone gossiped, as we do about murder. think about it if the worst you ever experience here is murder then the same emotion are all we have to offer if the worst we experienced is gossip... 

Here's the thing.. because we live in a type sim theory our murder damage to this body violation to this body is truly no more taxing to our true Spiritual selves than gossip. because because we have been taught to deify ourselves. harm to the self is the unforgivable sin. which we can internalize or blame others for.

if you understand what i said here you will discover there is nothing to debate as every counter point is about preserving self in this form/sin.  which brings me to my question what could you possible have to say? if you played mario brothers as a kid and beat the game did you keep track of all the marios you killed? did you even give it a second thought as you spent life after life in the digital world to accomplish your end goals?

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(September 24, 2020 at 2:18 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(September 24, 2020 at 12:49 pm)Drich Wrote: again sport not predicting the end, just the point where God kicks off the beginning of the end. by showing news stories from israel that our media has no intrest in. things the bible predicts, that are for the first time since jesus walked the earth are happening now. that is the one thing that separates what i'm doing and the doomsday prophets. I'm not giving a doomsday date. and i'm not trying to fortell, but rather infor of what is happening that has never happened before. things the bible said would happen.

The question is, do you believe it?

I believe absolutly everything i said is happening right now is happening. i believe like i said the bible called for these events. I also know there about about 8 more things that need to happen before this 3.5 year period of prosperity is up.  That in of itself is a thing because look at the economy right now. if it turn around and we/the world is in a record breaking money making era.. that's another sign. will there be a rapture like "this is the end/seth rogan movie" idk. will there be a rapture at all idk know what will it look like idk. will we all be here? idk will i get to stay and drag a few of you a-hole with me into heaven? IDK will i get to stand o the edge of hell and pee on those of you who after all the bs and having me stay behind to try and bring you in at the last min and you decide to burn in hell to spite me... idk.  is this even that time... idk.. 

i am sure there's never been an attempt to build the third temple. i am sure the book of revelation requires one. and i know it was written after the temple destruction so john knew there was no temple yet he foretold there would be one. I know there is an anti christ and a false prophet.. who this guy is talking to the jewish version of the pope... idk know the jew pope says he is absolutely the messiah, and his name is not jesus. so probably false prophet unless he starts making things happen for the jews on the world stage. ie the peace treaty which puts the jews at peace with ALL of the nations in the middle east since never. i know this is happening now. which means if the messiah is the prophet it looks like trump might be the literal anti christ. which kills me as i love trump. but that was one of the allures of the anti christ he is loved by the whole world at first. and if you look at the rallies in the us canada england ect. he fits the bill. but again this all depends on how this messiah announces himself and what dealing he has with this peace treaty and the true test is he the one to break it. (the anti christ will break the treaty) and also desecrate the sacrificial alter which makes the messiah guy the odds on fav as trump should not have access to the ceremonial alter. which note.. there has not be an ot sacrifice on the alter since 70ad. to which the messiah vowed this is the last year without one. which means temple and prophet..