(January 8, 2021 at 5:27 pm)Greatest I am Wrote:

(January 7, 2021 at 4:35 pm)Drich Wrote: i think you have a medieval understanding of condemnation. you see morality and condemation as a measure of self value or worth in relation to a standard you will never measure up to. when in fact sin or the identification of sin in a person is handled by God more like how we handle an infection or virus.
 
his sacrifice was the only thing that would yield a vaccine/cure. all God then required to have access to this vaccine/cure is simply acknowledgement of the cost, and who provided it.
this is why i said God sees sin more like how we handle a virus. God is not concerned in how or what mild activity you were doing when you contracted the virus, just the fact that you test positive. if you test positive you must then be 'cleansed' of the infection before you are allowed to go in with those who are not infected/heaven.
yes there is a cure for every sin. but to have access to it God asks that you first respect the one who provided this gift to you.
only to the unjust. for me who have been cured it would be unjust that God allowed the infected to comingle with the uninfected.
innocents has nothing to do with infection .
you are infected who cares why. bottom line is your infection will consume you and those around you if not treated.

Deflect so as to ignore the topic. More of your Christian hipocracy and lies. 

I do agree that your god is like a virus.

He belongs in virus hell.

Strange that your faith is so slight that you would restrict how your god can punish, or not.

Regards
DL

what a lazy half hearted rebuttal. i went line by line equating every precept you scribbled out and paired it with an easy to understand in modern term yet comparable exegesis of the bible narrative. I took concepts you were butchering with a seeming elementary catholic pov, and dragged you back to a bible based understanding of sin. and all you do is move to dismiss because seeming you are not prepared to have this discussion when it make sense to you. i understand if you can keep the idea od sin clouded in mystery and foolishness there is no reason to address it. but here's the thing. I did not ignore the topic, i spoke on it point by point refuting you understanding of how sin works. what you have identified is being off topic is in fact a rebuttal that collapses your whole argument/objection. it is not off topic it shows you are ill informed and do not have a foundational understanding of sin. which i in turn gave you one.

(January 12, 2021 at 2:35 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(January 12, 2021 at 2:32 pm)Drich Wrote: but like with the bible, you do have to taste the wine to judge it.. in turn how foolish is it to judge something like the bible based on nothing more than popular opinion when you have little to no experience with it your self? IE judge wine never have tasted wine before.

I agree.  However, since that doesn't describe my situation, it's nothing more than irrelevant ass twaddle.

here's the thing.. you don't get a vote on where or not i used the wine analogy to describe your situation.. i did use that analogy to judge/illustrate your closed minded approach to judgement, with or without your permission. Sewwww... this means youre being described as a wine taster who does not taste the wine she judges. in relation to how you have judged or try to judge the bible never having experiencing it in a similar fashion.

How many gallons of shit wine would you have to force down someone's throat before you accepted that they thought it tasted like shit from the first sip?

(January 14, 2021 at 3:54 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 12, 2021 at 2:35 pm)Angrboda Wrote: I agree.  However, since that doesn't describe my situation, it's nothing more than irrelevant ass twaddle.

here's the thing.. you don't get a vote on where or not i used the wine analogy to describe your situation.. i did use that analogy to judge/illustrate your closed minded approach to judgement, with or without your permission. Sewwww... this means youre being described as a wine taster who does not taste the wine she judges. in relation to how you have judged or try to judge the bible never having experiencing it in a similar fashion.

Here's the thing, Champ, reality does get a vote, and reality shows you talking out your ass with bullshit and falsehoods, as usual.

I don't need to experience anything in a similar fashion if the way you experience it is wrong, as has been shown multiple times.

(January 14, 2021 at 11:27 pm)Angrboda Wrote:

(January 14, 2021 at 3:54 pm)Drich Wrote: here's the thing.. you don't get a vote on where or not i used the wine analogy to describe your situation.. i did use that analogy to judge/illustrate your closed minded approach to judgement, with or without your permission. Sewwww... this means youre being described as a wine taster who does not taste the wine she judges. in relation to how you have judged or try to judge the bible never having experiencing it in a similar fashion.

Here's the thing, Champ, reality does get a vote, and reality shows you talking out your ass with bullshit and falsehoods, as usual.

I don't need to experience anything in a similar fashion if the way you experience it is wrong, as has been shown multiple times.

if you are to judge something, then yes you have to have knowledge/experience of it. otherwise it is you who is proven to be talking out her ass.

This is for posterity, so be honest.

How long was that 0.076 watt bulb of yours deprived of oxygen, drick?

(January 15, 2021 at 1:04 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 14, 2021 at 11:27 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Here's the thing, Champ, reality does get a vote, and reality shows you talking out your ass with bullshit and falsehoods, as usual.

I don't need to experience anything in a similar fashion if the way you experience it is wrong, as has been shown multiple times.

if you are to judge something, then yes you have to have knowledge/experience of it. otherwise it is you who is proven to be talking out her ass.

Yeah, we started talking about doctrine, and now you've worked around to claiming that if I don't know your heretical beliefs from the inside, then I'm wrong about that. All you've shown is that you can't follow the point and end up saying stupid things like this. Your beliefs don't define doctrine, so whether I do or do not have experience with your experience means dick. I know doctrine and I know heresy when I hear it, as I've shown multiple times. All you know how to do is spew ignorant nonsense.

Point in fact, this was what you asked:

(January 8, 2021 at 3:46 pm)Drich Wrote: are we to take a self admitted nonbelievers word on what is and is not doctrine?

The wine in this case is DOCTRINE. Your personal experiences mean fuckall here. The only person talking out of their ass here is you.

(January 15, 2021 at 1:04 pm)Drich Wrote: if you are to judge something, then yes you have to have knowledge/experience of it... <snip>...</snip>

This sort of comment always make me laugh. Apply what you say to Asian grooming gangs, paedophilia, reckless driving et. al.

Is it really so that a valid value judgement cannot be applied without knowledge/experience of the above, for example (particularly the experience?)

I'm not over-awed by free-verse poetry: it's a bit like kids throwing paint at a wall and claiming it's art. I haven't read much, and tried to write even less. How do you quantify/qualify knowledge and experience to know when crap is crap? Who said? How far do you go? Is your judgement better than that of others?

You've justified the bible to yourself: others have studied and can't justify it. And still others have had a sniff and determined the obvious.

Quote:if you are to judge something, then yes you have to have knowledge/experience of it. otherwise it is you who is proven to be talking out her ass.

Let's see -

-I've never abused a child, but I judge child abuse to be wrong.

-I've never gone hungry, but I judge starving people to death is wrong.

-I've never been an astrologer, but I judge astrology to be wrong.

-I've never been Drich, but I judge Drich to be wrong (as well as wrong-headed).

Lots more like this.

Boru

(January 12, 2021 at 2:39 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 8, 2021 at 5:27 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Deflect so as to ignore the topic. More of your Christian hipocracy and lies. 

I do agree that your god is like a virus.

He belongs in virus hell.

Strange that your faith is so slight that you would restrict how your god can punish, or not.

Regards
DL

what a lazy half hearted rebuttal. i went line by line equating every precept you scribbled out and paired it with an easy to understand in modern term yet comparable exegesis of the bible narrative. I took concepts you were butchering with a seeming elementary catholic pov, and dragged you back to a bible based understanding of sin. and all you do is move to dismiss because seeming you are not prepared to have this discussion when it make sense to you. i understand if you can keep the idea od sin clouded in mystery and foolishness there is no reason to address it. but here's the thing. I did not ignore the topic, i spoke on it point by point refuting you understanding of how sin works. what you have identified is being off topic is in fact a rebuttal that collapses your whole argument/objection. it is not off topic it shows you are ill informed and do not have a foundational understanding of sin. which i in turn gave you one.

You show your lack of understanding of sin, given that you promote a homophobic and misogynous religion or a genocidal prick of a god.

Pathetic is you.

Regards
DL