(July 2, 2021 at 3:22 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The myth of the American moderate strikes again.  

How many people do you think are on the fence about whether Black Lives Matter.  Are these our non racist moderates?

lol. BLM is not about black lives mattering just like being Antifa does not mean to be anti-fascist. If someone walked up to me and said are you anti-fascism, I would say, "Sure I am". Following that, they say, "Ok then. We're on the same side. Come help me burn down the local court house." Uhhh, that's not what I meant by me being anti-fascist. To be anti-fascist is not = to being antifa. They are very distinct things.

The same goes for BLM. BLM says non POCs should sit back and listen to the people twerking on ambulances and follow all of their advice because they are the height of morality. Well, I call bullshit on that one. Blacks are some of the least qualified people to diagnose something as racist. They are hyper vigilant, and half the time they think something is racist when it's not even close to being racist.

Optics: it’s how you make sure critiques of BLM and Antifa like IA’s are 100% divorced from reality and not merely 90-some% divorced from it.

If nothing else, it makes it harder for bad-faith right-wing propaganda about it to sucker in people who haven’t totally gone out to lunch.

(July 3, 2021 at 12:26 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Optics: it’s how you make sure critiques of BLM and Antifa like IA’s are 100% divorced from reality and not merely 90-some% divorced from it.

If nothing else, it makes it harder for bad-faith right-wing propaganda about it to sucker in people who haven’t totally gone out to lunch.

Exactly. Why do you think BLM is funded by George Soros and people like him? The antics of BLM are only creating more black racists and more white racists, which is why Soros in funding them and their nonsense. I don't know why anyone would think billionaires like him have good intentions with things like these. What evidence led anyone to believe these billionaires funding this are well intentioned men? The whole point of this movement is to create a mini-race war where we all hate each other. It never was about black lives mattering.

Why were there piles of bricks placed all over cities? The establishment wanted people to riot. They egged it on for years in the media by making everything about race and "white people bad", "look at all these Karens", etc. At the music awards you see artists dancing on top of cop cars while a Wendy's burns in the background. This is what the establishment wanted. They don't care at all about black people doing better economically. This was never about that. The establishment is against blacks like they always have been. They don't care about black people. Then when you have someone like me who actually does care about black people and wants to see them do better and wants to see them actually work in constructive ways rather than just creating new racists, I'm seen as the one who's the real racist because I don't go along with the BS that is only hurting black people.

As far as Antifa goes, I don't see how you can support them at all. Their whole thing is physically attacking people for exercising their free speech, or trying to burn down court houses. They are an absolute clown show and they really need to grow up.

The only people who tend to be suckered are those who already have a narrative about BLM

The Jews are funding the blacks and taking it all over, with antifa super soldiers leading the way, we know.

They’re coming for all of your frozen peaches.

(July 3, 2021 at 12:52 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Why were there piles of bricks placed all over cities? The establishment wanted people to riot.

I'm just going to leave this here. Seriously, I actually remember watching Amazon's Borat companion show where they're talking about how bricks were supposedly left out for people to riot, even though it turned out they were there for months before anyone could have known there would be a riot. Fucking Hell, you proved my backhanded remark about critiques like yours being 90-some percent removed from reality accurate. Evidently, in your case, it's in the higher 90s.

Quote:As far as Antifa goes, I don't see how you can support them at all. Their whole thing is physically attacking people for exercising their free speech, or trying to burn down court houses. They are an absolute clown show and they really need to grow up.

This video should explain why:



Also, it's weird watching old Philosophy Tube videos where Abby's presenting as male after she came out as trans a bit less than half a year ago.

(July 3, 2021 at 12:55 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The Jews are funding the blacks and taking it all over, with antifa super soldiers leading the way, we know.

They’re coming for all of your frozen peaches.

Criticizing one Jew or bad Jews makes you anti-semetic. Great point. I guess you completely support Israel's attacks on the Gaza Strip then, eh? Wouldn't want to be anti-semetic now.

That was a silly post and you know it. I forgive you Nudge. I know you were just kidding, probably.

And what happened to "eat the rich"?

Sounds like a good idea to me.

Yeah because Soros conspiracies are in no way motivated by Anti Semitism 

(July 3, 2021 at 1:21 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(July 3, 2021 at 12:52 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Why were there piles of bricks placed all over cities? The establishment wanted people to riot.

I'm just going to leave this here. Seriously, I actually remember watching Amazon's Borat companion show where they're talking about how bricks were supposedly left out for people to riot, even though it turned out they were there for months before anyone could have known there would be a riot. Fucking Hell, you proved my backhanded remark about critiques like yours being 90-some percent removed from reality accurate. Evidently, in your case, it's in the higher 90s.

Quote:As far as Antifa goes, I don't see how you can support them at all. Their whole thing is physically attacking people for exercising their free speech, or trying to burn down court houses. They are an absolute clown show and they really need to grow up.

This video should explain why:



Also, it's weird watching old Philosophy Tube videos where Abby's presenting as male after she came out as trans a bit less than half a year ago.

The thing about the bricks does not tear down my whole argument. That was only a tiny part of it, so it stands nonetheless. Thanks for that link.

I will watch the rest of the video you posted about Antifa, but so far I see it mentioned getting people's speaking appearances cancelled at universities and things like that. I don't agree with that either. Let them speak. Universities are supposed to be about having open discussions, not trying to silence anyone who disagrees with you. This is what separates me from the wokeists. I'm completely for social justice causes, but trying to win by any means necessary, even if that means supporting taking away other people's rights, that is when you become the bad guy. For example, I'm not heterosexual and I don't believe in god, but when I've seen street preachers being harassed or attacked by gay people, and the street preacher is the one that ends up being arrested (this has happened in Canada multiple times), I'm taking the side of the street preacher every time, even though I completely disagree with his message. It's irrelevant that I disagree with his message, because I am consistent with my beliefs and values. Taking away people's rights is fucked up.